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Title: i think...
Post by: DummyLoad on January 24, 2011, 01:07:55 am
...i'm in love.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/pmitchel/X-bones.jpg)

love the bobbed WL look.   :smiley:   
Title: Re: i think...
Post by: Jack_Hester on January 24, 2011, 02:44:02 am
You have chosen well.  Tell me more, as I'm afraid that I don't keep up with the latest.

Jack
Title: Re: i think...
Post by: stingray_65 on January 24, 2011, 12:42:18 pm
A bobber seat on a softail? that should make for a cushy ride!

I've always loved the springer look, and in matte black that shure looks pretty!

Great Retro look too!

I've been thinking about a new bike since I sold the chopper last October.

With as many irons in the fire these days I doubt I'll get started till after next riding season  :cry:

Title: Re: i think...
Post by: DummyLoad on January 24, 2011, 06:16:00 pm
it's the new H-D softail crossbones in matte black. 

 :glasses9:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/cross-bones.html
Title: Re: i think...
Post by: EL34 on January 25, 2011, 02:14:19 pm
I like the way the bike looks except the front end angle.
I like it to look a bit more raked out.

Not crazy chopper rake, just a bit more of a relaxed angle.
It looks like the front end has been in an accident and it got bent back hard.

The steering is probably pretty snappy with that steep angle, which is good.
Title: Re: i think...
Post by: panhead on January 27, 2011, 12:06:59 pm
How do you find the springer? The ones I've ridden are limited in turning radius. Not that you turn the bars much while riding, but it made parking difficult.

It must move pretty well with the Twin Cam 88 motor (I'm assuming it's HD and not some aftermarket bored & stroked beast).

I've found that those seat springs don't last too long. I've busted them running saddles like that and I may be a bit heavy at 215 lbs., but there are a lot bigger guys than me riding.
Title: Re: i think...
Post by: DummyLoad on January 27, 2011, 07:54:05 pm
never ridden one and none of my have owned one. honestly i've never given much thought or a second glance to springers until this HD model i posted.

i would imagine the tucked in look is b/c HD wanted to keep the rake similar to bikes with conventional canister forks. since the axis of the wheel sits out in front of the main fork, you'd need to tuck rake in of the main forks - draw an imaginary like from the wheel axis to center of the headstock, bet it's close to that of a softail with cartridge forks. my thoughts are that it probably handles ok on pavement but would have a tenancy to plow on a gravel/dirt road.

i like everything except the paint job on the tank. it's a TC 96CI, 6-speed, EFI, with a few custom HD black-out goodies. other than that it's a plain-jane HD crossbones model.

it looks  :glasses9: if i had down payment cash, there would be a copy in my garage.
Title: Re: i think...
Post by: stingray_65 on January 28, 2011, 07:31:32 am
That tucked in look is common with springer suspensions.

it's amazing how different a degree or two is noticeable visually.

Neck angle, fork length and fork angle determine the trail of the front wheel.

notice if you will your mechanical forces (for steering) are behind the wheel axle. it behaves like a shopping cart wheel and wants to flip around backward, so either the neck angle or the rake has to decrease so that the wheel follows the direction of the movement.

These rake and trail numbers change as you brake or hit bumps and are worst in a springer so you have to give a bit more trail to a springer, as you brake the trail diminishes and the closer you get to that shopping cart issue.

LOL her's a MUCH better explination

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/rakeandtrail.html
Title: Re: i think...
Post by: panhead on January 28, 2011, 11:39:01 am
Actually  for the Hydra-Glide front ends on the 50's and 60's Fl's, HD provided adjustable triple-trees so the wheelbase could be changed to accomodate a sidecar.