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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: panhead on June 21, 2011, 02:39:21 pm

Title: Smoked EL34
Post by: panhead on June 21, 2011, 02:39:21 pm
I just got back one of my SE EL34 amps I built a couple of years ago. The owner said he was A/B -ing it with his other amp (that I also built) during soundcheck and it smoked and he saw sparks around a tube.

The EL34 base is burned between pins 3 and 4 (plate and grid) and the socket it toasted between those pins. I haven't had a chance to look forther into it yet. BTW, the 2A mains fuse appears to be good. Excessive voltage between the pins? Any ideas?

Thanks

Panhead
Title: Re: Smoked EL34
Post by: PRR on June 21, 2011, 08:07:56 pm
> he was A/B -ing it

Did it get un-loaded while taking big signal?
Title: Re: Smoked EL34
Post by: LooseChange on June 21, 2011, 08:58:32 pm
That would do it.  I've seen more than one Marshall loaded with EL34's with burnt sockets between 3 and 4.
Title: Re: Smoked EL34
Post by: panhead on June 22, 2011, 06:06:15 am
I don't know. I've made clear that he can never run the amp unloaded. I assume he was switching the guitar signal between amps, because this head has its own cabinet and his other amp is a combo. In any case, I think I'll find a lot of damage. Hopefully not to the PT.
Title: Re: Smoked EL34
Post by: bluesbear on June 22, 2011, 07:52:13 am
Maybe not. I've bought a couple of amps (a Marshall and a Musicman) real cheap because an EL34 arced internally and smoked the socket. I just replaced the socket and tubes and all was fine. I used the Marshall JCM800 for years with no problems. My son still has the Musicman (bass head) in his basement for band practice.
Hopefully, you'll find the same.
Dave
Title: Re: Smoked EL34
Post by: panhead on June 23, 2011, 11:41:45 am
The EL34 was a JJ. In my experience so far they have been fairly rugged, but I suppose they can short internally like anyone else's brand. How common is this? I haven't yet had a chance to open the amp up and survey the damage.