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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: blown240 on September 25, 2011, 09:41:28 pm

Title: Tone Pot Value
Post by: blown240 on September 25, 2011, 09:41:28 pm
I am building a copy of a 6G6B Bassman.  It calls for a 25k bass pot and a 250k treble pot.  I have a couple extra 500k pots.  Would these work?  What difference will it make?  Sorry if its a stupid question, but I am new at this.
Title: Re: Tone Pot Value
Post by: sluckey on September 25, 2011, 09:55:18 pm
You could get by with using a 500K for the treble pot, but using a 500K for the bass pot will be almost useless. Just sneeze on the knob and it will travel the 25K value that a 25K pot would travel in 300°. If you want it to sound kinda like a 6G6 you may want to keep the component values in the ballpark.
Title: Re: Tone Pot Value
Post by: blown240 on September 25, 2011, 10:08:31 pm
Ok cool.   Looks like I will be getting a new bass pot.
Title: Re: Tone Pot Value
Post by: RicharD on September 25, 2011, 10:39:15 pm
http://www.duncanamps.com/tsc/download.html (http://www.duncanamps.com/tsc/download.html)

You can download Duncan's tone stack calculator and see how different values effect the the response of the circuit.  The equation for frequency is 1/2piRC.  To go from a 25k range to a 500k range means you'll have to drastically change the cap in that tone path.  The short answer is, if you're cloning stick with the known values as much as possible.  If you're experimenting either crunch numbers long hand or use the nifty Duncan thang.
Title: Re: Tone Pot Value
Post by: DummyLoad on September 25, 2011, 10:48:19 pm
I am building a copy of a 6G6B Bassman.  It calls for a 25k bass pot and a 250k treble pot.  I have a couple extra 500k pots.  Would these work?  What difference will it make?  Sorry if its a stupid question, but I am new at this.

install a 27K in parallel with your 500K - now you have a 25K pot.

--DL
Title: Re: Tone Pot Value
Post by: blown240 on September 25, 2011, 11:16:17 pm
Cool thanks. 

I downloaded Duncan amp tools, but i dont see a schematic that looks just like the one I am using.
Title: Re: Tone Pot Value
Post by: DummyLoad on September 26, 2011, 12:01:25 am
yes there is; look closer... ;)
Title: Re: Tone Pot Value
Post by: jjasilli on September 26, 2011, 10:19:15 am
install a 27K in parallel with your 500K - now you have a 25K pot. --DL

Yes, but not really usable due to the sharp slope of the modded pot:  at full rotation 500K║27K= 26K; but at only 1/10th rotation of the 500k pot:  50K ║27K= 18K.  This is 72% rotation of a 25K pot!  You can't really dial in anything under that.