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Title: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: mrr3000gt on September 26, 2011, 02:10:37 pm
I have a Marshall JCM 2000 DSL (please...I know...) that needs to have the rearplate glued down.

What is good to use when re-tacking down faceplates/rearplates on the marshalls (and please, no suggestions to use railroad spikes!).

What I have is a part of the rearplate is comming off - I just want to use some type of cement that is typical for a faceplate that can take heat & stress.

Thanks,
-mike
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: plexi50 on September 26, 2011, 04:43:33 pm
I have tried all kinds of glue and have found nothing that will over time keep the rear plate in place. Heat is probably the main factor. I used tiny bronze screws on a 1974 MKII. Pictured was my glue attempt. Sat 2 days and i thought i was done with it. I had used 3M spray adhesive. There may be a glue out there some one else can say has worked for them. I may try marine 5200 on my next repair. Marine 5200 is really great stuff. It needs about 2-3 days to cure good though if you have that much time /
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: phsyconoodler on September 26, 2011, 05:02:25 pm
3M adhesive spray is useless IMHO. I've tried it for tweed and tolex and it wouldn't hold either for more than a couple of days without lifting.
 Good old contact cement,the smelly kind,works fine.Tolex is another story.
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: mrr3000gt on September 27, 2011, 12:34:03 pm
I am not much of a glue-ologist: what is the brand of contact cement to use, and is it similar to what Marshall uses?

Also: Plexi I love the high-tech use of that laptop battery for a glueing straight-edge! That will be my next problem to solve - clamping.
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: sluckey on September 27, 2011, 01:37:16 pm
I thought that was an old VCR camcorder battery!    :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: plexi50 on September 27, 2011, 07:17:49 pm
 :laugh: Yeah i have a bunch of old Panasonic camcorder batterys that i found other uses for. Im a pac rat
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: sluckey on September 27, 2011, 07:32:30 pm
They make nice pavers.  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: kagliostro on September 28, 2011, 01:24:55 am
Have you considered sponge adhesive tape ?

there are type with a very very thin sponge <adesivetape-sponge-adesivetape> that are very strong, also if exposed to U.V. ray

those tapes are used to attach mirrors in a quick and strong way

Kagliostro
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: The_Gaz on September 28, 2011, 02:15:45 am
what about silicone?
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: timbraun on October 12, 2017, 09:03:55 pm
I tried some LePage's carpenter's glue. That didn't work, doesn't adhere to metal very well.
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: Tone Junkie on October 12, 2017, 09:15:23 pm
I use double sided sticky tape . They have all kinds, some of it is almost impossible to get apart . Most I have  found  get harder with age. I have some back plates going on 3 yrs. still stuck strong . that was with stuff made for carpets.
Bill
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: bnwitt on October 13, 2017, 08:23:43 am
forget the glue.  Use a screw or screws
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: DummyLoad on October 13, 2017, 12:17:17 pm
JB weld. it'll never come off again.


--pete
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: mresistor on October 13, 2017, 05:10:50 pm
...or something like this  https://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Epoxy-85-oz-Clear/dp/B001Z3C3AG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1507932527&sr=8-1&keywords=glue+for+plastic+and+metal (https://www.amazon.com/Gorilla-Epoxy-85-oz-Clear/dp/B001Z3C3AG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1507932527&sr=8-1&keywords=glue+for+plastic+and+metal)


make sure both surfaces are clean and free of wax, dirt, oils,,,   etc.
Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: alerich on October 21, 2017, 08:15:25 pm
JB weld. it'll never come off again.


--pete

This. That stuff is amazing.

Title: Re: Face/Back plate of Marshall JCM glue-down...
Post by: BlackCrowe604 on October 23, 2017, 01:34:53 am
Try a thin layer of 2-part epoxy - should work fine!

Or, Loctite AA H8610 - I use this stuff at work to glue plastic to stainless, and have used it on metal-to-metal surfaces and it's pretty much indestructible. $$ though   http://na.henkel-adhesives.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797944414209 (http://na.henkel-adhesives.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797944414209)