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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: jeff on June 11, 2012, 01:36:53 pm

Title: Marshall JCM 800 power transformer
Post by: jeff on June 11, 2012, 01:36:53 pm
 Well my bro changed his mind and wants to go with a marshall JCM 800(thanks for the jubilee help). I was looking at the schematics and can't understand what PT to get. All the PTs I've seen for a  JCM 800 have been 345-0-345. The schematic shows a B+ of 367V for the 50W. Am I misunderstanding this. I thought with a SS CT full wave rect DC=1.4XAC so wouldn't that give a B+ of 483V? In order to get a B+ of 367V wouldn't I need a 260-0-260?

It doesn't seem to make sense to me for the 100W either because it uses a full wave bridge rect so wouldn't a 345-0-345 CT be 690V X 1.4 or 966V! Wouldn't the 100W need a  167-0-167V?

So for the 50W I'm thinking I need a 260-0-260V at what mA?

Thanks
 Jeff
Title: Re: Marshall JCM 800 power transformer
Post by: sluckey on June 11, 2012, 02:15:34 pm
You don't use the same transformer for a 50 watter and 100 watter. Your calculations are correct for no load but you are overlooking the effects of loading. Here's the info you need...

For JCM-800 50 watt use Doug's MPT-50 transformer. (345-0-345VAC @ 150ma) (conventional rectifier)
For JCM-800 100 watt use Doug's MPT-100 transformer (350VAC @ 290ma) (full wave bridge rectifier)
Title: Re: Marshall JCM 800 power transformer
Post by: jeff on June 11, 2012, 02:57:46 pm
So a 345-0-345 transformer with a solid state rectifier will produce 483V no load, but under load the voltage will drop 116V to 367V? I thought you only got significant voltage drop with tube rectifers.
Title: Re: Marshall JCM 800 power transformer
Post by: sluckey on June 11, 2012, 03:15:28 pm
It all depends on the amount of load you put on the PT. The PT has internal/winding resistance. The more current the PT has to supply, the more voltage will be dropped internally. If you place a zero ohm load on the PT, the voltage will drop to zero.