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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: Gareth81 on November 11, 2012, 08:41:17 pm

Title: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: Gareth81 on November 11, 2012, 08:41:17 pm
This silverface twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on the reverb driver. I don't see this on any schematics or layout diagrams... should I remove it?
Title: Re: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: HotBluePlates on November 11, 2012, 09:12:23 pm
If you want. If the reverb is working well and sounds like you want, leave it.

Most additions like this in silverface versions were used to cure oscillations that happened because board layout and wire routing was changed from the blackface style. In essence, they are production expedients to ensure all amps produced worked properly; with marginal layout/lead dress, you might have 1 or 2 out of 10 give problems. Rather than fix individual amps, all amps would get the "cure".
Title: Re: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: PRR on November 11, 2012, 09:25:15 pm
It's far above the audio band. I see no need to remove it.
Title: Re: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: sluckey on November 11, 2012, 09:37:23 pm
The cap in your pic is a 560pF, not 56pF. Look on page 2 of this pdf...

http://www.el34world.com/charts/Schematics/files/fender/twin_reverb_sf_100_schem.pdf (http://www.el34world.com/charts/Schematics/files/fender/twin_reverb_sf_100_schem.pdf)
Title: Re: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: Geezer on November 12, 2012, 07:30:28 am
Yep, there it is!

Looks like a LNFB "smoothing cap" to take some edge off the verb(?)..... if so, it's the first time I remember seeing that used in a commercial amp, aside from Dumble-esk boutique stuff.

G
Title: Re: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: tubeswell on November 12, 2012, 01:07:31 pm
Its a plate bypass cap to 'cure' HF oscillation - like HBP said.
Title: Re: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: PRR on November 12, 2012, 04:17:29 pm
> a 560pF, not 56pF

60 KHz. Still no audio effect. Leave it be.
Title: Re: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: Willabe on November 12, 2012, 06:05:28 pm
I've seen guys say it's to take the "ring" out of the verb OT.       :dontknow:

I've also seen it wired from the plate to cathode on the verb driver tube.


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Title: Re: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: sluckey on November 12, 2012, 06:16:17 pm
Quote
I've also seen it wired from the plate to cathode on the verb driver tube.
Uh, that's how this one is connected.
Title: Re: Twin reverb has a 56pf cap from pins 6 to 8 on reverb driver...
Post by: Willabe on November 12, 2012, 06:29:52 pm
Sorry, I looked at page 1 and not page 2 like you said.


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