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Title: parallel triodes & CF
Post by: tubenit on November 20, 2012, 12:45:40 pm
Out of curiousity ...............................

Anybody tried a parallel triode followed by a cathode follower?   And if so what values did you use?

Not sure if this would work or not?   

Anybody have a guess as to what the cathode resistor value would be here in this example?

With respect, Tubenit
Title: Re: parallel triodes & CF
Post by: tubeswell on November 20, 2012, 05:34:51 pm
If paralleling a triode, the RoT is to halve the plate and cathode resistors' resistance to achieve the comparable operating point with twice the tube current that you'd get from a single stage.

When halving the Rk, the 'other' RoT is that you approximately want to double any (Ck or Cp) bypass that's there in order to get the same ballpark 3dB rolloff (as a single stage). Having noted this, other things happening in a paralleled tube (the reduced plate resistance and inter-electrode capacitance and reduced output impedance etc) will impact on the freq rolloff you get at the end of the day, but as far as I'm concerned the RoT still holds 'true' more or less.
Title: Re: parallel triodes & CF
Post by: sluckey on November 20, 2012, 05:46:11 pm
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Anybody have a guess as to what the cathode resistor value would be here in this example?
I'd think 50K to 100K would be fine.

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the RoT is
What's RoT?
Title: Re: parallel triodes & CF
Post by: PRR on November 20, 2012, 06:42:13 pm
> What's RoT?

Republic of Texas
Rule of Thumb
Reign of Terror
Right on Time
Restraint of Trade
Rate of Turn
Radar-Only Tactic

Probably he means Reign of Terror.

Tubenit- it's a distortion stage. You don't want "maximum gain and clean output". You might want minimum output in distortion so you don't have to cut-down so much later. Ordinary optimizations don't apply to Distortion stages.

Actually what you want is "interesting flavor". There's no good rules. A "safe flavor" might be 2 small onions and one small garlic. An "interesting! flavor" might be ten garlics. Or four onions and a big slug of cinnamon.

Open all your resistor drawers, warm the iron and the guitar, try anything.
Title: Re: parallel triodes & CF
Post by: jazbo8 on November 20, 2012, 10:37:27 pm
Does the configuration provide a lot of current drive capability? Does the PI benefit greatly from it? Or is it just for getting a different flavor as PRR said? :w2:

Jaz
Title: Re: parallel triodes & CF
Post by: tubeswell on November 20, 2012, 11:04:00 pm
RoT is what you make of it ;-)
Title: Re: parallel triodes & CF
Post by: 6G6 on November 21, 2012, 05:25:40 pm
In my neck of the woods, that's definately Republic of Texas.

I think I would start with each triode using thier own Rp Rc and bypass cap of the original value as the single triode,
then season to taste.