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Title: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: HommeMarrBuckley on May 27, 2013, 06:28:43 am
Hello all,

I am very new to amp building and am starting a Bassman 6g6B scratch build.  On the bass channel, I was thinking about putting a switch on it for different bypass cap values.  I was going to use (25uf (stock) and .68uf (mod).  I am not good at all with the schematic and was hoping someone could draw it out in layout form the best way to implement it.  I was reading about this and was also concerned about switchable popping. I just would like the input from those more experienced.  I believe it requires a spdt, as well.

If responding, please don't direct me to another mod unless the layout is very similar to 6g6 B with double input jacks.

Thanks

Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: 6G6 on May 27, 2013, 07:38:13 am
Since the .68 is much smaller than the 25uF,
why not just put them in parrallel and put the switch
on the 25 to turn it off or on?

Since there is also a resister, I don't thnk it will pop.
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: tubenit on May 27, 2013, 09:54:39 am
http://www.el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=5621.0 (http://www.el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=5621.0)
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: tubeswell on May 27, 2013, 10:12:36 am
Here's a couple of suggestions

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8135/8854773497_1e0de6e594_o.png)
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: sluckey on May 27, 2013, 11:09:52 am
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I am not good at all with the schematic and was hoping someone could draw it out in layout form the best way to implement it.
I like 6G6's idea. I'd do it like this...
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: HommeMarrBuckley on May 30, 2013, 08:16:54 am
Sluckey and others,

Thanks so much for the image and input.  If I wanted to use a push pull pot for the volume (instead of a switch) how could I wire that?  Someone stated about using a pot and I like that idea (than finding and drilling a hole for the spst).
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: sluckey on May 30, 2013, 09:05:55 am
Wire it exactly the same. The only difference is the switch is on the pot rather than beside the pot.
(http://www.hoffmanamps.com/MyStore/catalog/images/IMG_2249.jpg)
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: HommeMarrBuckley on May 30, 2013, 06:53:31 pm
Does it matter if schematic/layout calls for 250k L volume pot and I would be most likely using 1M Audio spst (like pictured)?

Thanks
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: HotBluePlates on May 30, 2013, 10:21:57 pm
If you want your build's controls to respond like the original 6G6B's, then yes it will matter.
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: HommeMarrBuckley on May 30, 2013, 11:02:07 pm
Dang

Can't seem to find a 250K Linear SPST pot. 

Someone mentioned wiring another 1.2 or 1.5k resistor (for more Marshally sound)
How would that look?

I know this is a lame question but is that spot directly under the pot a grounding point?

After this, I am done pushing this, I appreciate everyone's help.  Sorry if I annoyed anyone.
Thanks
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: tubeswell on May 31, 2013, 01:04:35 am
Oops. wrong post
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: sluckey on May 31, 2013, 02:33:52 am
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Can't seem to find a 250K Linear SPST pot.
Here's one... http://www.tubesandmore.com/products/R-VPP-250KL (http://www.tubesandmore.com/products/R-VPP-250KL)

Quote
I know this is a lame question but is that spot directly under the pot a grounding point?
yes
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: HotBluePlates on May 31, 2013, 06:42:49 am
Someone mentioned wiring another 1.2 or 1.5k resistor (for more Marshally sound)
How would that look?

Well, your plan to build the 6G6B Bassman is an awfully specific and slightly quirky model. If it were me, I'd build the amp stock (or very close) to begin with to hear what it normally sounds like.

Of course, if you leave room you could always add new components later if you want to alter its sound.
Title: Re: Switchable cathode bypass capacitor for Bassman 6g6B
Post by: kagliostro on May 31, 2013, 07:56:02 am
I'm not sure about which pot of the amp you want to have with the switch with the purpose of insert and exclude one of the two capacitors (0.68 - 25uF)

but I think you need a PushPull Pot, not a Common Pot with switch

with a Common Pot, you can't turn the pot without act the switch at the start of the rotation

with a PushPull Pot you can turn it independently by the activation of the switch

K