Hoffman Amplifiers Tube Amplifier Forum
Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: sluckey on September 02, 2013, 08:08:08 am
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Last week while organizing the shop I ran across this little chassis. So I took it to the bench just to fire it up again, and several days later I had Pee Wee. I had originally planned to put the AO-44 in a 5E3 cab and use it as a dedicated reverb amp. Really sounded good having a separate cab that could be placed anywhere. But after building the Revibe I lost interest. So now I have just one more amp! And the shop is still a mess... :icon_biggrin:
I just added an AB763 preamp to the AO-44 push/pull cathode biased 6GW8 power amp. This thing really has a big Fender sound with plenty of volume. Much better than the AO-44 conversions you see on youtube where the guitar is sent directly to the power amp.
Schematic and pics in the attached pdf
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nice Wee SL.....looks pretty darn Rockabilly
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Great Job! about the same size chassis as my Hoffman Record Player amp-little bit different layout. I like your tone stack over a tweed type 5E3 tone stack I was considering. I'm thinking that stack would allow you to dial in a lot more bottom than the tweed type? Plate
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There's plenty of bottom thump, especially with my 15" Big Ben. I actually removed the typical Fender 25µF cathode caps to reduce the bass. Plenty of ice pick on tap too. It's very much like a blackface but only lower power.
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Awesome! nice job sliding that Noval socket in there. Looks as if Hammond did themselves! I see you have to remove a tag strip too (looks like it had the unwanted transistor preamp circuit tag strip)
The PI/power circuit is very close in component values and voltages, and identical in basic circuit layout to the little M2 and M4 amps Magnatone made in 1963/64. Either the Estey engineers used the same suggested circuits from the manufacturer or... they used a Hammond circuit to begin with (they were using the Hammond patented reverb tanks and I imagine the tanks came with some engineering papers; with those tanks, like Hammond, Estey sometimes used a transistor for recovery).
Just like you found, the Estey engineers decided the circuit needed a couple of 12AX7 gain stages ahead of it for guitar.
I've got some 6GW8s,, I'll have to see if I can get them into a build some day.
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I just got one of those in a pile of junk I bought!
I had never heard of those output tubes (that meaning nothing in particular) and was pondering switching to EL34s. The OT looked pretty darn beefy for that power level and that, I suspect, shares a lot of the blame for the good bass resp.
I edged into the same thought you had, that feeding a guitar signal into the output tubes was a guaranteed loser; but I didn't think to shove in a preamp tube.
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identical in basic circuit layout to the little M2 and M4 amps Magnatone made in 1963/64.
Do you have schematics for the M2 and M4? If so, I'd love to get a copy.
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Sluckey,
That is a VERY cool build!! Thanks for sharing it.
With respect, Tubenit
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Hi Steve
Despite your Final approach was on: November 10, 2012, 12:16:39 pm
This is a very nice conversion :thumbsup:
Franco
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Despite your Final approach was on: November 10, 2012, 12:16:39 pm
I had to do a "go around". :laugh:
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Very nice conversion.Are you going to make it into a head,put it in a combo or just leave it be as is?
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I'll leave it as is.
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Well, I would recomend a bottom plate and four rubber feet to dress/close the bottom up and make it compatable to sit on any of your speaker cabs. And a couple of handles makes it easy to move around. That's just me! :dontknow: Plate
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Well, I would recomend a bottom plate and four rubber feet to dress/close the bottom up and make it compatable to sit on any of your speaker cabs. And a couple of handles makes it easy to move around. That's just me! :dontknow: Plate
OK. Thanks.
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very cool conversion and nice work. :icon_biggrin:
i was going to convert germanium x-istor to depletion MOSFET and add a second MOSFET with one-knob tone stack & vol.
got tired of moving it around to make room in the lab, so i farmed the iron and tubes, put them in storage, then tossed the chassis. :-(
--pete
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got tired of moving it around to make room in the lab
I really know what you mean. This is an easy chassis to put on the back burner. I did the same. But I was surprised with the potential of this little amp. I still have another. Wonder what will become of that! :think1:
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got tired of moving it around to make room in the lab
I really know what you mean. This is an easy chassis to put on the back burner. I did the same. But I was surprised with the potential of this little amp. I still have another. Wonder what will become of that! :think1:
Maybe a pentode EF86/5879 follow-up???
*nice work Steve! I love to see this kind of stuff. Especially from you - your work and thoroughness are terrific.
Echambley was looking for ideas for a 10w or so "mini-Twin" and this was something similar (using these power tubes) I was contemplating as a possibility. Do you think it could pass for something like what he's looking for?
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I think the AO-44 would be a good candidate for a small "twin" amp. I had to do a lot of head scratching to be able to shoehorn one extra tube into that tiny chassis. Putting two extra tubes and 6 pots in that chassis would be very difficult. Maybe impossible. If I was gonna do that, I'd just use a larger chassis.
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I don't know if he needed extra functionality like Tremolo & Reverb so therefore it wouldn't be a "scaled Twin", just a clean Twin type of sound at around 10watts is what I think he was after? Maybe Ed will chime in when he sees it?
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I don't know if he needed extra functionality like Tremolo & Reverb so therefore it wouldn't be a "scaled Twin", just a clean Twin type of sound at around 10watts is what I think he was after? Maybe Ed will chime in when he sees it?
Been watching this. A portion of the idea I have used. I am just collecting info as I still have far too many amps to get sold before my next build.