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Title: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: Slimtim on October 24, 2013, 04:17:46 pm
Picked up 2 m3 organs yesterday.2 ao-35 and 2 ao-29 + a gibbs tank.2 are mine and 2 are my roommate's.Most of the tubes were gone.Scored a telefunken 12ax7 which i'll ebay to get some el84.i think the 12" speaker will go well enough with a little 5 watter i plan on converting sometime.I need to buy some parts and get to work.
Title: Re: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: Willabe on October 24, 2013, 07:14:50 pm
Those are great sounding organs. Your not going to part them out are you?


         Brad      :sad2:
Title: Re: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: DummyLoad on October 24, 2013, 07:30:32 pm
part out/kill all E and L models... not the M3s :sadness: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbf1Vvw9rjo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbf1Vvw9rjo)

--Pete
Title: Re: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: Willabe on October 24, 2013, 09:54:22 pm
I believe that Booker T used an M3 for his whole career as a Hammond player. The M3 was the studio house organ at Stax Records in Memphis, so all the Booker T and the MG's recordings, PLUS, ALL the Otis Redding, Wilson Picket, Albert King, etc. that were recorded at Stax, where recorded with an M3, not a B3 or other Hammond organ models.

I believe Keith Emerson also used an M3 for his whole career too. Ritchie 200/Jimbo you out there?

I had a good friend, Kenny Sadick, years ago when I was hanging out at some of the blues bars in Chicago who played an M3 . He played for Lonnie Brooks for many years with a cut down M3 and a Leslie. Lonnie Brooks was from Texas and was know there as Guitar Jr. but had to go back to LB because when he came to Chgo. there was already a Guitar Jr. Lonnie actually played at Johnny and Edgar Winters high school sox hops when they were kids and they where crazy about his playing and singing.

He played on at least 2 JW albums for Chgo. based Alligator Records (the whole album) in the 90's but did not go out on the road with him because of road money limits for JW.

If you don't play keyboards PLEASE sell them to someone who will. Then you can buy many more iron sets and chassis then just the few you have now.

Those "tone wheel" organs WILL NEVER BE MADE AGAIN because of the price to build them.


              Brad      :icon_biggrin:         
Title: Re: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: super&plexi on October 24, 2013, 10:22:50 pm
Green Onions Booker T Daryl Hall Mayer Hathorne   on you tube. a little fast, tempo wise, but a beautiful example of B3 mastery, ramp up down, brake, man, it's all there, and  3minutes till end at 5min. .... HE just plain OWNS IT ...Settles it...BRINGS IT BACK UP, THen takes it back down, & out.....Majestic.
Title: Re: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: Slimtim on October 24, 2013, 10:43:47 pm
Maybe i should have been more clear on the condition of these.Neither were working.The one that was mostly there the keys were busted all to hell and the main motor was gone.The other was chopped down to make more portable and had been dropped more than once.The chopped conversion was an awful hack job.It was actually harder to move around than the full m3.There are m3s out there that will get repaired with these.i'm not sure the amps are even in working condition yet.One i know blew the fuse when the owner was using hemostats to hold the  b+ wire onto the amp and it shorted.That's why he had 2,he was planning to piece them together to maybe get one working and couldn't.Who knows how screwed the rest is.Neither of the reverb amps went to these m3s,he bought them later and never did anything with them.But all is well because he kept the Leslie :) .
Title: Re: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: DummyLoad on October 24, 2013, 11:43:04 pm
ah! so they were carrion... carry on.

--pete
Title: Re: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: Willabe on October 24, 2013, 11:55:24 pm
ah! so they were carrion... carry on.

OK, for what it's worth agreed.


              Brad    :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: Willabe on October 25, 2013, 02:40:46 am
BTW, Ken's M3, either his start motor or the start switch was out for years and he would wrap a string around the motor shaft and pull it to start it. Never missed a gig start! 

True story!  


                  Brad        :l2:
Title: Re: Sweet Hammond score
Post by: Ritchie200 on October 25, 2013, 08:03:32 pm
Do NOT kill the L's  A few snips and a soldering iron and a few hours and they will give you a great M/B/C sound.  THe only thing missing is the scanner.  Most dont use it anyway with a Leslie.  However, you can mod the electronic one to sound pretty good.  It is easy to get the classic click and percussion.  My gosh, many classic recordings were made with an L.  Focus, and Keith Emerson had one behind him at all times (modified).  Although he had a habit of playing that one backwards and sticking knives into the keys and riding it like a cowboy.  He used to use screwdrivers and his roady Lemmy (yep THE Lemmy of Hawkwind and Motorhead) suggested knives.  Plus, the return from the volume pedal is a PrePI direct out and can go right into an amp for the perfect Jon Lord growl.

Jim (L122 owner)


Keith Emerson stabs knives in his Hammond-1971 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggFzkyd288#)