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Title: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: Underwood on January 14, 2014, 05:36:13 pm
 :w2:  I am doing the caps on a SUper reverb and I see 220K 1W resistors on the 70uf 350V caps on the schematic. Under the doghouse is a 4.7 and 1K for the 20uf 500V caps, but no 220K 1W on the 70uf. I also could not find any 70uf, so I got 80uf. I think that is all sprague makes now. Any help would be appreciated.  THANKS!!!!!
Title: Re: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: HotBluePlates on January 14, 2014, 05:56:00 pm
Did you unsolder the existing caps? Normally those resistors are tight against the board, while the body of the caps obscure them from view.
Title: Re: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: Underwood on January 14, 2014, 06:05:27 pm
 No I haven't. They are under the board? I never knew that. I probably left some old crusty resistors on some of my other amps then. I usually just clip and solder when I put new caps on. I never took the board off. Is that wrong?  THANKS!
Title: Re: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: HotBluePlates on January 14, 2014, 06:12:30 pm
No, not under the board.

The caps are big cylinders, right? Lay 2 beer cans on their side on your kitchen counter. Peep at the ends of the cans. See some daylight between where the cans touch and the counter's surface?

That's where the 220kΩ's usually hide. On the top-side of the board, but under the caps.
Title: Re: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: Willabe on January 14, 2014, 06:13:34 pm
No not under the board, under/along side of the 2 caps.

That is only on the Fender amps that have the 2x70uFx350v caps which are in series. The R's are for forced voltage sharing on the 2 caps so 1 cap doesn't carry more than the other and go over it's 350v limit. Fender amps that have 2x40uFx500 (525) v caps don't have the R's because their in parallel and don't need the forced voltage sharing.  

The R's also bleed off the B+ dcv when you turn off the amp.


             Brad     :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: Underwood on January 14, 2014, 06:24:18 pm
I see 'em!  :laugh: I guess I could've waited 'til I actually unsoldered the caps before I psted this ? :dontknow: :w2: THanks!! The 80uf 450V OK to use, correct?
Title: Re: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: Willabe on January 14, 2014, 06:32:49 pm
Yes if it fits, might be a little long? Don't let the end connections, well the B+ end short to the cap can cover.

I'm sure Sprague still makes the 70uFx350v cap, next time try Mouser or use 2x20uFx500v caps from our host Doug's on line store.


             Brad     :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: stratele52 on January 15, 2014, 05:08:03 am
Underwood ,

You may use the worng schematic ,

SR schematic AA 763 do not have those resistor and SR schematic AA270 have them
Title: Re: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: sluckey on January 15, 2014, 07:55:14 am
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You may use the worng schematic
You did read that he found the resistors, right?
Title: Re: Invisible 220K 1W resistors on SUper reverb caps
Post by: stratele52 on January 15, 2014, 07:58:59 am
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You may use the worng schematic
You did read that he found the resistors, right?

No I have not see his answer , Thank's ;

,"    I see 'em!   I guess I could've waited 'til I actually unsoldered the caps before I psted this ?   THanks!! The 80uf 450V OK to use, correct?  "