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Title: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 18, 2014, 09:27:05 am
Hi, I'd like to build a stereo amplifier ( or 2 X mono ) with tubes easy to find. There are a couple of schems on the net but I don't want to invest money in an amplifier that doesn't sound right. Does someone of you have a good schem ?

Thank s

Colas
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: sluckey on February 18, 2014, 09:56:23 am
I would consider the Dynaco amps. Common tubes and all parts are available.
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 18, 2014, 10:12:25 am
would you a have  a schematic, by any chance....?  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: sluckey on February 18, 2014, 10:24:19 am
No, but these people do. They also have parts. May I recommend the Mark III model?

http://www.triodeelectronics.com/ (http://www.triodeelectronics.com/)
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 18, 2014, 10:27:37 am
I saw the dynaco schematics, very well explained. Theres is no trannies specs though...only model numbers and I'd like to use the transformers I have in stock already. Thanks for the info, I'll get back to you.

Colas
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: sluckey on February 18, 2014, 10:41:02 am
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Theres is no trannies specs though.
Sure there are. Triode has very detailed transformer specs for all the Dynaco amps.
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 18, 2014, 12:12:14 pm
i missed that info, sorry, i 've looked too fast................
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: terminalgs on February 18, 2014, 12:17:38 pm
what kind of wattage output are you looking for?

I have a Telefunken Hymnus Stereo '58 5014.  It is a console stereo with lots of tubes for the AM/FM and shortwave, but the power amp is 2 EL84's and a 12AX7. (I use the "tape" input to route line level in)...  There were a lot of similar SE mono amps in radios during the 50's, but they are low wattage output.  my Telefunken sounds fantastic, but it isn't loud.

Of course, you'll have less  power supply noise issues with a push-pull design,  and the cost is probably marginal to add a couple of tubes...
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Ed_Chambley on February 18, 2014, 02:32:49 pm
I have 3 Mark III.  Love them.  2 are original iron and one is using the Triode set.  They are very nice.  The Transformers are huge.  Plate voltage gets up to the point where I have series all filter caps.

They create a great soundstage.  I buy from Triode and they are very helpful Monday-Thursday. :laugh:  No one is there on Friday.
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 18, 2014, 05:20:31 pm
the prob I have is the price too. Two MKIII come to 1100$.  ( tubes included or not, I'd have to find out ) Customs: 300 $ delivery : ??????? taxes ??????

With the schem and the trannies specs, it may cost me 400 $ or less: caps. sockets and tubes, the rest I have.

Colas
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: sluckey on February 18, 2014, 06:07:13 pm
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the prob I have is the price too.
If you shoot for the moon, you gotta pay for the ride. There are cheaper alternatives. Google is your friend.
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 19, 2014, 08:28:00 am
I have already the 2 OPT in stock for the MKIII , a chassis and a lot more, so the moon is getting closer....watch for the tide !!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: sluckey on February 19, 2014, 09:25:11 am
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I have already the 2 OPT in stock for the MKIII
That's a big part of the cost. I assume you have UL transformers?

Something else to consider... The Mark III is only a power amp. Gonna need an expensive preamp to hear what that amp can do. Big pair of Klipsch or Voice of the Theater too.

Money, money!   :wink:
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Ed_Chambley on February 19, 2014, 11:19:13 am
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I have already the 2 OPT in stock for the MKIII
That's a big part of the cost. I assume you have UL transformers?

Something else to consider... The Mark III is only a power amp. Gonna need an expensive preamp to hear what that amp can do. Big pair of Klipsch or Voice of the Theater too.

Money, money!   :wink:
Sluckey, you are killing me.  You got me to thinking about the price of my trip to the moon.  I am really liking the canadian speakers Paradigm.  I was considering a tube driven surround for my media center, but I like nice stuff.  I stayed with a nice Yamaha SS receiver after about 1 minute of adding it all up.

I still have vinyl and 2 thorens (sp?) turntables.  A friend of mine's son came in the house the other day and asked me if I were a DJ.  I am fighting getting old, but it happens anyway. :help:
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: HotBluePlates on February 19, 2014, 05:08:55 pm
Something else to consider... The Mark III is only a power amp. Gonna need an expensive preamp to hear what that amp can do. Big pair of Klipsch or Voice of the Theater too.

Money, money!   :wink:


Sluckey, you are killing me.  You got me to thinking about the price of my trip to the moon.  I am really liking the canadian speakers Paradigm.  I was considering a tube driven surround for my media center, but I like nice stuff.  ...

I still have vinyl and 2 thorens (sp?) turntables.  ...

The cost of entry is keeping me from doing a normal hi-fi setup, even though I already have the MC-30's. Speakers, preamp, good sources, lack of room & a 2-year-old nix the normal setup.

Instead, I went for some high-end planar magnetic headphones, a DAC and headphone amp. Still expensive, but a fraction of the cost of the big setup, and I can listen in my apartment at any time of day or night.
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 19, 2014, 05:14:17 pm
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That's a big part of the cost. I assume you have UL transformers?

yep 2 X HAMMOND 4.3K with 40% taps
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: shooter on February 22, 2014, 05:13:49 pm
I just finished a quad se el84 mono block that to old ears sounds very good,  Verified by a handful of discerning friends. I run a stereo to mono input, a 4ohm OT (edcor) and use 2 8-ohm audio nirvana 8"ers in 3' cabs, their design. It is cap coupled though since the moon is way to pricey. Workin on the pre-amp section now from Sluckey's rockola re-work.  My living room is 20'x20' with 12' ceiling and nobody likes it past 7...except me and my friends that like green beer!!
Title: Re: Hi - Fi stereo project needed
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 22, 2014, 08:40:20 pm
green beer with weird smell ?%)&?&**(&*(&() :l2: