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Title: hagstrom f20 buzzz won't go away!
Post by: frank57 on March 12, 2014, 02:07:43 pm
I can't get rid of this bzzzz!
I put in new pots, new wire, new switch , new jack and nothing gets rid of it.
Is it the foil on the pickguard?
It was working fine a few days ago but now I'm stumped.
Any Ideas?
It sounds like it has to do with the output wire but changing it did nothing.
I put in a new ground wire and still bzzz.
I had a Duncan sh-4 in there and everything was working before.
Title: Re: hagstrom f20 buzzz won't go away!
Post by: stratele52 on May 07, 2014, 03:48:05 am
This is the layout , not sure how you buit it .


Anyway  this layout  is incomplete , not good.


1- Pickups show 2 grounds ; Where they go ?


2- Pots body must go to ground ; nothing on layout !




If you built like the layout , sure you'll have some buzz



Title: Re: hagstrom f20 buzzz won't go away!
Post by: jjasilli on May 07, 2014, 10:54:33 am
I had a Duncan sh-4 in there and everything was working before.

Maybe the problem is a PU -- bad ground connection internally.  Maybe install one PU at a time to isolate the culprit.  An extra ground wire from the metal body of the PU might work.

Do both PU's generate signal?
Title: Re: hagstrom f20 buzzz won't go away!
Post by: frank57 on May 22, 2014, 12:59:53 pm
Aha! I figured it out.Crappy soldering iron!
 I bought some better equipment(a lot of bang for the buck)

 
(http://www.amazon.ca/Displays-Soldering-Real-time-Fahrenheit-Temperature/dp/B00C04FADG/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400781119&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=yahua+soldering+station (http://www.amazon.ca/Displays-Soldering-Real-time-Fahrenheit-Temperature/dp/B00C04FADG/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400781119&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=yahua+soldering+station)) and problem is gone .


I put in a 59 as well only now I can't seem to get the highs I had before with the JB.
 I have the 59 about 1/16 from the bottom of the strings and the jb about 1/8 away.
 
 The pole pieces I left all the same.
Title: Re: hagstrom f20 buzzz won't go away!
Post by: Willabe on May 22, 2014, 01:08:15 pm
Aha! I figured it out.Crappy soldering iron!
 I bought some better equipment(a lot of bang for the buck)

Good! So it was a bad solder connection?

I put in a 59 as well only now I can't seem to get the highs I had before with the JB.
I have the 59 about 1/16 from the bottom of the strings and the jb about 1/8 away. 

That seems really close, too close.


                  Brad     :think1:
Title: Re: hagstrom f20 buzzz won't go away!
Post by: frank57 on May 25, 2014, 11:56:43 am

It looks like my soldering iron that I used before had a crap tip or something like that.So far with this new heat controlled gadget I'm doing way better.The setup on the guitar was exactly that when I bought it though.


Maybe 3/32 would be better for the neck?

The ground wire to the claw is actually on the volume pot.
The tone control stopped working and looks like it was crappy soldering again.
I resoldered the cap going from pot to pot with new solder and that seemed to solve that.
Title: Re: hagstrom f20 buzzz won't go away!
Post by: Willabe on May 25, 2014, 04:02:18 pm

The setup on the guitar was exactly that when I bought it though.


Maybe 3/32 would be better for the neck?

That doesn't mean whoever setup the guitar before did it correctly. And correct PUP height might be different for you.

Some like their PUP's closer and some like them farther away from the strings.


                  Brad     :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: hagstrom f20 buzzz won't go away!
Post by: HotBluePlates on May 25, 2014, 06:33:53 pm
I put in a 59 as well only now I can't seem to get the highs I had before with the JB.
 I have the 59 about 1/16 from the bottom of the strings and the jb about 1/8 away.

You typically get more highs and less output/midrange if you lower the pickup. Also, judging by Duncan's soundclips (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/), the JB is just a hair more forward with highs.

The JB has higher d.c. resistance, so it should have higher output. If you've been raising the '59 to match the JB's previous output, you probably have it too close to the strings to get a clear sound.

The other brightest setting of humbuckers is (along with setting the overall pickup height low) to raise the adjustable polepieces. When they get adjusted outward from the pickup body, it lowers the pickup's inductance some and will contribute to a brighter sound.
Title: Re: hagstrom f20 buzzz won't go away!
Post by: frank57 on May 26, 2014, 10:27:22 am
Actually I've been lowering the jb to match the 59 like in the original configuration.
The original pickups had a high output bridge as well and that sort of setup does even them out pretty quick.

I lowered the 59 slightly.I'm getting a big warm sound out of it.
At 3/32 there is less output but also a drop in overall warmth a bit.


I don't hear any distortion in the clean setting.It's a very warm sounding guitar(basswood).
What Ii found is that if you put the pole pieces out on the jb it actually sounds darker from the lower position.
I raised the treble side a bit and that seemed to get it closer to where i had it.
 
The pickups sound like they adjusted the polepieces at the factory.
they're very evenly balanced string to string.
they seem very sensitive to the height as compared to the old ones.


the jb was originally from a jackson soloist.