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Title: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: John on March 25, 2014, 10:15:11 am
Has anyone used this type? I am even less than a hobbyist than Sluckey  :icon_biggrin: but it seems I spend a lot of time desoldering. I've been using the braid, and it works fine, but gets expensive and you need 2 hands.

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Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: sluckey on March 25, 2014, 10:59:49 am
I have something similar. My PACE has a foot switch operated vacuum pump connected to the desoldering iron rather than the manual 'suck-it" button on the handle. It also has interchangeable tips for a variety of PCB work. I use it whenever I am working on a PCB (rarely anymore) or have a lot of sucking to do. Here's a pic...

(http://home.comcast.net/~seluckey/amps/warbler/w_110.jpg)



But for occasional use I just grab my DS017 SOLDAPULLT tool shown in the upper left of this pic...

(http://home.comcast.net/~seluckey/amps/warbler/w_04.jpg)
Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: eleventeen on March 25, 2014, 01:45:43 pm
I have one of those blue soldapullit things and I consider it invaluable. It's not so good for very fine 2-sided PC stuff (though it's fine for single-sided boards until you wear the tip too open but it's very good for tube-sized connections. The thing is at least 35 years old, have to replace the tips (about $3 at Fry's) on occasion and clean it out (easy to do) maybe every 20 pulls if your pulling big blobs of solder. It does a great job. I have never liked the wick, myself, others do. I would love to have a much more sophisticated desoldering tool like Sluckey has but I can't justify the cost for as much as I use it. I have pulled every part off big boards with this thing, unsoldered 200+ parts at a sitting.

Unless you have a pedal-controlled something, you have to use two hands no matter what.
Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: John on April 07, 2014, 08:19:58 pm
Well, I received the item, and so far it works great for PCB stuff, even the tiny stuff in a Behringer pedal. For point to point, I still prefer the wick though. For only $12, not sure how long it's going to last, but it's a cheap test drive anyway.
Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: John on April 08, 2014, 02:55:10 pm
The copper braid I'm familiar with, but I don't know any slot-car guys around here.
Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: Ed_Chambley on April 08, 2014, 03:24:50 pm
I have a pump and one from radio shack that heats up.  It is called a deslodering iron.  Had it for years and just got a new one.  They are now cheeeeeeeeeeeep, but seem to work well.


Here it the link


http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062731&filterName=Type&filterValue=Desoldering (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062731&filterName=Type&filterValue=Desoldering)
Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: John on April 08, 2014, 04:29:58 pm
Ed, I have the same exact one and I hate it! The only way to get it hot enough is to plug into my AC supply and crank it up to 140 or so. When it gets hot enough I can smell it, it works fine.  :icon_biggrin:  Plus, ya gotta hold in that bulb and not hit anything with the long barrel, which while barely hot enough to melt solder sure will burn through caps, resistors, insulation....    :laugh:



Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: John on April 09, 2014, 02:05:58 pm
No, I meant I kept bumping it against everything. It's awkward, at least for me. But you're right, I bought little brass colored clips and soldered a short length of wire to them, and they work great for heat sinks.
Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: Ed_Chambley on April 09, 2014, 02:31:28 pm
No, I meant I kept bumping it against everything. It's awkward, at least for me. But you're right, I bought little brass colored clips and soldered a short length of wire to them, and they work great for heat sinks.
I have not used the newer one enough to really give a good report on it.  I am sorry.  The other one I had was ancient and very heavy duty, but finally burned out.  Man it got hot.  I mostly use my weller iron and a pump.  I guess the new one I got is crap.  Maybe I will look into one you posted.  There is a place near me that repurposes and recycles electronics and they use then a lot.  I asked about them and the guy said they cost almost $500.  I din not ask anything else, but I will find out if you want me to. :l2:
Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: John on April 09, 2014, 02:34:46 pm
Quote
but I will find out if you want me to.


Hmm, let me check my pocket money.




uh, no!!
Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: super&plexi on April 11, 2014, 09:03:02 am
Been using solder wick,  and  blue anodized 5-10 dollar suckers. I never thought the tips would last as long as they have.  sometimes a combination of both works best for me.


As far as solder wick alone goes, I don't have a great deal of luck with super tiny (width) braid. Like 1/16".
I seem to do a lot better with 1/8-3/32 whatever the not thinnest sizes are, on up to 1/4'' & larger.


used it for ground strap, and  attached it to/and by alligator clips for temporary heatsink also. Heck, I think I heard  Bogner uses thin stuff to floss with.


Bet you could make one of those foot actuated jobs for under 20$ at Harbor Freight. And maybe red & chrome Roto Vibe foot pedal shell for coolness factor
Title: Re: DEsoldering tool/iron
Post by: G._Hoffman on April 12, 2014, 04:42:42 pm
Hakko 808.  Somewhere in the $200-250 range, and made for the job.  A little more cumbersome than the desoldering stations, but they also cost about a third of the cheapest stations.  At any rate, a properly controlled temperature, a continuous vacuum, and a fairly reasonable price. 


Gabriel