Hoffman Amplifiers Tube Amplifier Forum
Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: kwm488 on May 24, 2014, 09:33:24 am
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hi
do you mind to let me know what is the name of this item, and where can i buy it (the right side of the red pointer, circle which connect power cord)
thanks
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They are called Round AC Outlet for Fender Amps 3-prong. Check with Mike Marsh http://www.marshamps.com/ (http://www.marshamps.com/)
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[/size]Anyone whe sells fender clone kits should have them. Mojotone..Etc. You may just have to call. They are not as cheap as you may think either. Normally around $30. This is why I have fixed all that quit working. Most of the time you can just re-tension the inside clips.
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[/size]At least this is what I think you are talking about since there are 3 arrows. Check on ebay and you may find a better deal.
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You may not have the easiest time finding a 2-conductor AC "accessory" outlet. Most such things are 3-wire (meaning, with ground) at this point. And, most of the 3-wire type require a larger mounting hole in the chassis. While there would be nothing wrong (well, other than changing the "stock" nature of the amp) to change to a 3-wire connector, most people would probably prefer not to enlarge the hole in the chassis. A problem. The lighting in your pix somehow makes one of the wires going to that outlet connector appear green (eg; ground) but it is not. That's a 2-wire ungrounded connector.
*Be sure*...if you find a 3-wire replacement that the mounting hole is the same size, unless you are willing to enlarge it. Most that I have found are NOT.
If it were my choice and I had to enlarge the hole to fit the larger 3-wire connector because all I could find would be the larger connector....I wouldn't do that. I would cover up the hole with a blank piece of sheet metal and eliminate that outlet. Some might disagree. I could also understand that if this was a customer's amp that you wanted to get out of your shop quickly, you might not be able to conduct a worldwide search to find an old 2-wire outlet.
Some time back, a forum member posted a picture using a standard IEC "inlet" connector to both fill that hole and provide for an "easy to find" replacement line cord. I liked that solution as well. It doesn't completely fill the hole, but close enough, and it solves a problem without drilling or altering the chassis.
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I'm pretty sure Steve at Apex Jr. still has them.....
www.apexjr.com (http://www.apexjr.com)
http://apexjr.com/images/AMPHENOLACOUTLET.jpg (http://apexjr.com/images/AMPHENOLACOUTLET.jpg)
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Yes, that's the newer type aka Amphenol 160-2N (thanks for that part number) which would work fine for a "mid-70's or later" Fender amp. Also looks like a decent source for some parts. I used to shop at Apex when I lived in LA and they were on San Fernando Rd in the Valley.
It is my strong belief and recollection that those newer, grounded variety require a chassis hole (at least) 1/8" larger than the older, ungrounded 2-pin ones from older Fenders. That's whether mounted from the inside or the outside. The OP needs an older style 2-wire ungrounded type.
The point being, these things are pretty expensive (for what they are) and if the goal is to restore a broken receptacle on an older Fender amp...if these newer ones require enlarging the chassis hole on an old Bassman or Super or Twin, personally I would much prefer not to do that.
As I can't locate any source of the newer 160-2N 3-wire type that has a spec sheet that specifies hole size, I think we need to ask forum members to measure the black plastic header size on the old type and new type AC sockets, supply their results here, and compare. Should be possible from the outside of the chassis. I can't tell you what year it was, but the one time 25+ years ago I had to replace the accessory socket on an old Fender, I got the new type and it was too big for the existing hole. Back then, I probably reamed out the original hole and thought nothing of it. Today, I wouldn't do that to a Fender that was old enough to have (only) the old 2-connector style. I would cover the hole with a blank plate, eliminate the socket, and be done with it. Obviously an individual choice.
The other choice (assuming you can't get older smaller style) would be to make a blank plate with a square hole in it for a genuine amp-based PITA piece of fabrication.
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It is true the 2 prong type is smaller. That is why mentioned Mike Marsh. He used to have a replacement that was the same size which is what the kits came with. He got most of his stuff from Mojotone. The no longer have cutouts for them in the kits, but still may still have the receptacle.
Also, Weber had them as well, but I do not see them anymore listed on the website and the new clone chassis may have IEC, probably do. Still worth a the time to send a couple of emails.
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I don't know about the AC outlet but your other arrows are pointing to a carling SPDT switch and a fender fuse holder
Those items can be found on these pages
http://hoffmanamps.com/MyStore/catalog/parts14.htm (http://hoffmanamps.com/MyStore/catalog/parts14.htm)
http://hoffmanamps.com/MyStore/catalog/parts7.htm (http://hoffmanamps.com/MyStore/catalog/parts7.htm)
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hi
i buy it from ebay . thank you for everyone.