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Title: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: SILVERGUN on October 01, 2014, 04:09:48 pm
While reading up on strat tremolos, I ran across this guy and was just floored by his playing.
I've never been one to float a tremolo bridge because I never wanted to deal with the tuning issues, but he's got me reconsidering....just a fabulous tone, playing technique, and system for setting up his bridge....WOW!  :huh:

Carl Verheyen: Whammy Bar Setup Secrets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy-F7iSIopA#ws)
Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: EL34 on October 01, 2014, 04:15:40 pm
yeah, his playing is awesome
I like that kind of stuff and he uses big reverb too

He did not cover how he manages the nut for those big pulls.
Lot of guys wind the strings up to get a less dramatic angle over the nut and keep the string from binding




Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: EL34 on October 01, 2014, 04:27:12 pm
Ok, he explains what he does to the nut in this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVQCaQxdSH0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVQCaQxdSH0)
Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: SILVERGUN on October 01, 2014, 04:27:47 pm
yeah, his playing is awesome
I like that stuff and he uses big verb too
I immediately thought of you when I heard it (so that's a big compliment in itself  :icon_biggrin:)

I enjoyed the little Jeff Beck trick there,,,,thought you would too.

One of my favorite moments happens at about 0:52 at the end of the harmonic riffage, where he barres a chrord with his first finger and then just strikes that same formation with his pick followed by the first finger of that pick hand so that the whole chord turns to harmonic (by having that finger run over the strings 1 octave up from where he's fingering the chord)

Even though I know to do that,,,I just never think to actually DO IT



Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: SILVERGUN on October 01, 2014, 04:33:26 pm
Ok, he explains what he does to the nut in this video
Nice...

When I get some time on gonna find more from him......I need influences like this!

Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: tubenit on October 01, 2014, 07:01:55 pm
I like his tone a lot.  Sort of Eric Johnsonish in some places, but also different then EJ.

Thanks for sharing it!  PLEASE do NOT let Ritchie200 see this as he will start to think strats are actually very nice guitars again.

With respect, Tubenit
Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: Ritchie200 on October 01, 2014, 08:51:21 pm
"start to think"?  That is what I have always hoped and prayed for you... :icon_biggrin:


This is exactly how Ritchie Blackmore's guitar and amp tech set Ritchie's guitar up back in '72ish.  I'm sure it's no secret.  I always put three springs on the bottom (low E side) and one on top.  I've done that for years and never had a problem with keeping it in tune.  I guess it's the same concept, difference being I've got them stretched out quite a bit due to the heavy gage strings.  I posted a while back that when I used to build stamping dies the spring manufacturers had a very precise operating range for operation and longevity - both for compression and extension springs.  That's where I got my guestimated "stretch" data.  My current Strat also has a graphite nut which is golden, but my old ones were stock and again, no problem.  Leo knew what he was doing when he designed the 6 screw wang bar.  I've never really paid attention to how much note pull I got, maybe I need to check that out!


If this guy can keep a $300 MIM plywood guitar in tune like that, he is a master!  Jeff, take heed!


Jim
Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: SILVERGUN on October 01, 2014, 09:42:30 pm
PLEASE do NOT let Ritchie200 see this as he will start to think strats are actually very nice guitars again.
Well, speak of the devil.....
He's like Beetlejuice,,, you cant say his name or Strat in a post or he's gonna show up  :m8


If this guy can keep a $300 MIM plywood guitar in tune like that, he is a master!
Just when I thought I needed an american strat with custom pickups, callaham bridge,etc......
I can't believe how good that thing sounds!!

I've never owned a real strat, so I've been leaning that way recently,,,,,but then there's always Warmoth

Is it still a strat if its made of mahogany, rear routed, has 3 P90s, no pickguard, and a wenge neck??

I think I know the answer..... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: Ritchie200 on October 01, 2014, 10:16:41 pm
Ummm, Beetlejuice says no.....
Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: Willabe on October 01, 2014, 10:46:38 pm
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice,  :lipsrsealed:



                 Brad    :l2:
Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup tricky I this.
Post by: super&plexi on September 08, 2015, 08:17:34 am
Back when my rent was 210.00 Mo. for 1 Bd apt. Carl was a neighbor. He had '59 sb and insanely clean '62(daphne blue I think) Strats, among others. He was writing guitar theory /practice, just getting published) way back then. Had this funny right hand style(almost like pointing at strings and scratching ( like you would a lotto ticket) Seems to have worked for him. Another artist and GIT guy out here Scott Henderson -various artists & Tribal Tech (Tek) sets his up the same way, & is another of those guys worthy of a listen.
Title: Re: Cool playing and tremolo bar setup trick
Post by: jojokeo on September 26, 2015, 01:35:33 pm
In going through the various video threads today and seeing this for the first time this is great stuff. I've heard of setting up trems in a lot of ways and even the full tone up technique but not using three of them. However, a long while back I realized that the strings' pull was different on the tremolo and came up with my own way of doing what Carl does. I don't know which is better (likely his) but figured to share it. Maybe someone will confirm or correct me some day on which they like better? But it's always nice to be able to have options on doing things anyway. Who knows, maybe there's a third way too?