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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: g-man on October 02, 2014, 04:17:07 pm

Title: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: g-man on October 02, 2014, 04:17:07 pm
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Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: eleventeen on October 02, 2014, 08:26:09 pm
I can't speak from experience of having worked on these, but looking at the schematics maybe you have to replace the 100K resistor(s) in the tone network(s) too. Who knows, maybe you have a teensy bit of leakage through your tone-shaping caps; they are not defective to the point of being unacceptable, but perhaps they are passing enough leakage current so that such leakage current is passing thru the remaining 100Ks?


Are your tone controls silent when turned?

 
Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: g-man on October 03, 2014, 09:03:22 am
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Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: eleventeen on October 03, 2014, 09:58:45 am
That's generally something you do on an amp that old almost on a "need it or not basis", IMO. For the 30 cents each, you might as well. Please let us know if that fixes the problem (or not!) 
Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: Willabe on October 03, 2014, 10:20:46 am
CCR's are also flammable. Like screen grid R's it's a good thing to go with flameproof metal film R's for B+ dropping R's.


                Brad    :icon_biggrin:

 
Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: HotBluePlates on October 05, 2014, 11:35:50 am
If it were my amp, I'd be looking at resistors over 100kΩ which connect (either directly, or ultimately) to tube grids.

The higher-resistance resistors tend to contribute the most hiss; the resistors which hiss near the input of the amp have their noise amplified by the rest of the amp. Pulling preamp tubes to break the circuit in various places will likely narrow down where the biggest offenders are if you don't have a scope or listening amp to spot where the noise originates.
Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: g-man on October 06, 2014, 10:50:39 am
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Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: eleventeen on October 06, 2014, 10:57:21 am
Great news! I myself did not think the intra-node resistors could cause hiss, but there you go.


You gotta love it when the cheapest part you can put in the amp solves the problem!
Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: g-man on October 06, 2014, 11:08:27 am
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Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: HotBluePlates on October 06, 2014, 05:13:34 pm
The main reason I started there is because the hiss was identical on both channels, so I was looking for something common to both channels and before the volume controls.

Excellent reasoning!
Title: Re: Fender brownface hiss
Post by: AZJimC on October 07, 2014, 01:26:13 am
Ahhh, nothing like the sound of a warm resistor sizzling.

Good call,
I'll have to remember that one for future hiss chases.

Jim