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Title: L'il Maggie
Post by: sluckey on March 18, 2015, 12:07:11 pm
Well I've done another small box amp. L'il Maggie is a Magnatone M2. This amp uses a single stage true pitch shifting vibrato and a pair of 6GW8s for the power amp. My PeeWee Hammond (AO-44 conversion) had a gender change! I fixed a few shortcomings in this entry level Magnatone and also added a selector switch for FM Vibrato or bias vary tremolo. It all sounds pretty good. Here's the link...

     http://home.comcast.net/~seluckey/amps/lil_maggie/lil_maggie.htm (http://home.comcast.net/~seluckey/amps/lil_maggie/lil_maggie.htm)

I'll take a break for a while. Time to get my feet dirty in the garden.
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: lego4040 on March 18, 2015, 12:32:25 pm
Wow, you did it again Steve. Itll be some time before I get to my Maggie but yours is fantastic. 10 watter?
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: sluckey on March 18, 2015, 12:50:22 pm
It's idling hotter than that right now. Gotta cool it off some. Sounds good, no red-plating  but I don't want to cook those expensive tubes.
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: Toxophilite on March 18, 2015, 01:46:42 pm
Nice work!
Full of good design ideas and an inspiration to improve my lead dress :worthy1:
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: sluckey on March 18, 2015, 01:54:39 pm
Thanks. Lead dress always seems easier in a new chassis for some reason.
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: Toxophilite on March 18, 2015, 02:04:40 pm
It probably doesn't hurt that you're really good at it!!
Enjoy the gardening I was digging up my mother's just the other day!
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: TubeGeek on March 18, 2015, 03:08:54 pm
 :worthy1:  very cool as usual!
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: DummyLoad on March 18, 2015, 03:13:43 pm
very nice! clips?  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: sluckey on March 18, 2015, 03:36:26 pm
very nice! clips?  :icon_biggrin:
You guys keep pushing and I'll probably cave in. Then you'll know the real reason I don't do sound clips.   :icon_biggrin:

I suppose I could buy a decent mic, a laptop, a nice sound card, software, etc. and just git 'er done. But I gotta put seeds in the garden first!  :laugh:
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: kagliostro on March 18, 2015, 04:14:05 pm
Nice realization Steve and also Very Interesting :thumbsup:

Franco

p.s.: for those who are interested on this project but are afraid about the availability of the varistors

here a low cost substitute (thanks to M. Manning)

source http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23839&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 (http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23839&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: tubenit on March 19, 2015, 05:45:52 am
Sluckey,

That is a remarkably well done build!  Bravo!

You always have such incredibly useful and "clear to follow" documentation with your stuff.

Thanks for sharing!

With respect, Tubenit
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: TNblueshawk on March 19, 2015, 11:18:37 am
L'il Maggie is hot  :grin:
 
Most interesting in loading up the parts last.
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: shooter on March 19, 2015, 11:54:10 am
Again ,excellent work!  If I was to "steal" the trem/vibrato that goes to the 220k grid Rs, do I match the switched one to the grid ones?  Mine are  470k.

thanks
 
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: sluckey on March 19, 2015, 12:03:30 pm
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If I was to "steal" the trem/vibrato that goes to the 220k grid Rs, do I match the switched one to the grid ones?
I just used 220K because that's what the circuit I copied used. My amp has 270K grid resistors and the model 421 that I stole the idea from used 100K grid resistors. I don't think the value is critical.
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: foghornleghorn on March 23, 2015, 03:08:34 pm
Another super-documented build Steve! I wish I had those computer chops to do that. I built your Dual 50 Marshall, very easy with your documentation, thanx a lot!
 
These old Maggies are something else for sure--I just finished a Maggie 113, it's over at AmpGarage. Circuit is quite similar to yours but 220K V1 plates and conventional tremolo, tube rectified and uses 2x6V6.
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: sluckey on March 23, 2015, 04:02:26 pm
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I just finished a Maggie 113, it's over at AmpGarage.
I just saw it. Great looking amp! Very clean and neat and the layout looks very logical. Sure looks better than any real Magnatone I ever saw!   :icon_biggrin:

Would you want to share your schematic with Hoffman member terminalgs? He does the magnatoneamps.com  (http://www.magnatoneamps.com/) website. I don't think he has a schematic for the 113.

Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: DummyLoad on March 23, 2015, 04:37:59 pm
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I just finished a Maggie 113, it's over at AmpGarage.
I just saw it. Great looking amp! Very clean and neat and the layout looks very logical. Sure looks better than any real Magnatone I ever saw!   :icon_biggrin:

Would you want to share your schematic with Hoffman member terminalgs? He does the magnatoneamps.com  (http://www.magnatoneamps.com/) website. I don't think he has a schematic for the 113.


why not post your maggie 113 here foghornleghorn?


respectfully,


--pete
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: Willabe on March 23, 2015, 07:47:27 pm
why not post your maggie 113 here foghornleghorn?

Yes please!


           Brad     :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: terminalgs on March 26, 2015, 07:06:40 pm
Great build Steve! 


layout design looks fantastic.


foghornleghorn,
I don't have a 113 schematic at http://magnatoneamps.com/schematics.html (http://magnatoneamps.com/schematics.html) , I'd love to add one if you have one.


Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: archaos on March 27, 2015, 05:46:33 pm
As usual, it's a very cool build Steve.

Congrats !
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: jojokeo on March 29, 2015, 12:53:59 am
Well I've done another small box amp. L'il Maggie is a Magnatone M2. This amp uses a single stage true pitch shifting vibrato and a pair of 6GW8s for the power amp. My PeeWee Hammond (AO-44 conversion)...

Fantastic Steve! Sorry to see Pee Wee go but L'il Maggie seems to have stolen people's hearts? I agree that at least a Bass & Treb would've been cool but oh well. I often wondered about the minimal power filtration just looking at the schems too. Looking at the chassis had me thinking of another project for Doug's recently made ones? (I've got two un-drilled waiting for something like this  :think1:)
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: jojokeo on March 29, 2015, 12:58:11 am
p.s.: for those who are interested on this project but are afraid about the availability of the varistors

here a low cost substitute (thanks to M. Manning)

Kag since the photo isn't visible likely to protect the innocent, are you referring to the MOVs w/ trimming resistors clones?
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: kagliostro on March 30, 2015, 04:34:20 am
Ciao Jojokeo

I apologize for the inconvenient, I modified my previous post and I added the schematic as attachment, I think you can see it now

Franco
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: jojokeo on March 30, 2015, 01:07:17 pm
That's what I thought, thank you Franco. Have you tried this yet? Is it verified to work & sound the same in a known circuit?

I've spoken to Gary C before, he's a great resource of information and very nice gentlemen. He also was skeptical of the performance using anything other than authentic parts (but this makes sense for several reasons.
 
The main thing about using twelve parts to replace two is that it would cluster-up & ruin Sluckey's sweet turret board layout using the originals.
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: kagliostro on March 30, 2015, 01:21:15 pm
I haven't tried it

but on the link I posted you can read the whole story of those replacement and, yes, they where tested and seems that the thing function as the original or very close to it

I had interest on this thing because I've an old italian amp (that I've to rebuild) that use the same Magnatone vibrato patent (2 varistors, not 4)

Franco
Title: Re: L'il Maggie
Post by: jmp50_1967 on April 06, 2015, 08:04:12 pm
Well I've done another small box amp. L'il Maggie is a Magnatone M2. This amp uses a single stage true pitch shifting vibrato and a pair of 6GW8s for the power amp. My PeeWee Hammond (AO-44 conversion) had a gender change! I fixed a few shortcomings in this entry level Magnatone and also added a selector switch for FM Vibrato or bias vary tremolo. It all sounds pretty good. Here's the link...

     http://home.comcast.net/~seluckey/amps/lil_maggie/lil_maggie.htm (http://home.comcast.net/~seluckey/amps/lil_maggie/lil_maggie.htm)




I'll take a break for a while. Time to get my feet dirty in the garden.


That looks really nice!! I really like the way you did the heater wiring.