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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: p2pAmps on September 24, 2015, 04:56:49 am

Title: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: p2pAmps on September 24, 2015, 04:56:49 am
Parts came in yesterday (thanks Doug) So I knocked this one out for a friend.  Pretty cool amp...

(http://p2pamps.com/tp/1.jpg)
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Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: EL34 on September 24, 2015, 06:33:14 am
Looks good Mike!
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: p2pAmps on September 24, 2015, 07:56:40 am
Looks good Mike!

Hey thanks Doug...
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: Fresh_Start on September 24, 2015, 08:12:27 am
With a nice 10" alnico speaker that is a really fun amp to play.

What transformers did you use?
What voltage on plate of 6V6? 

I ask because I had to work to get voltages down to 5F2 levels.  It was worth the effort since I wanted that warm tweedy sound and feel. So was an extra filter cap and choke before the power tube plate node.


Cheers,
Chip


P.S. A small thing but a log taper volume pot instead of linear taper would be a big improvement.
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: p2pAmps on September 24, 2015, 08:23:29 am
With a nice 10" alnico speaker that is a really fun amp to play.

What transformers did you use?
What voltage on plate of 6V6? 

I ask because I had to work to get voltages down to 5F2 levels.  It was worth the effort since I wanted that warm tweedy sound and feel. So was an extra filter cap and choke before the power tube plate node.


Cheers,
Chip

Hi Chip,

Right now I am looking at 370 on the plates...  The trannies are Heyboers. 


P.S. A small thing but a log taper volume pot instead of linear taper would be a big improvement.

Thanks for the tip
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: p2pAmps on September 24, 2015, 08:54:28 am
So does anyone think a 12" would totally suck in one of these amps? 
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: eleventeen on September 24, 2015, 10:48:18 am
Almost like the Flintstones compared to your neat little Princeton Reverbs.
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: Fresh_Start on September 24, 2015, 09:02:22 pm
So does anyone think a 12" would totally suck in one of these amps? 

No, it wouldn't suck. Just need a bigger cab.  However, there isn't enough wattage to really push any 12" speaker I can think of.

IIRC for a brief period on the '50s, Fender put the 5F2A circuit in a cab with a 10" speaker and called it a "Harvard".  I can tell you that a Weber 10A100 is a great match for this circuit. "Warm, crunchy, early breakup. Compressed /fattened at high volume."  Sounds about right. Ted recommended light dope If I remember right (sorry he's gone).

Cheers,
Chip


P.S.  Should've started with "Another really nice, clean build."


One lead dress question - it looks like the junction of the two 68K resistors with the shielded wire going to the first triode grid is unsupported. Is there a turret under there not shown in the photo?
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: Willabe on September 24, 2015, 09:28:51 pm
No, it wouldn't suck. Just need a bigger cab.  However, there isn't enough wattage to really push any 12" speaker I can think of.

Celestion Vox blue, 12"/15w.  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: eleventeen on September 24, 2015, 09:48:07 pm
Although it does not matter one iota, by custom, the red OT wire should go to the B+ and the blue should go to the plate of the output tube.
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: sluckey on September 24, 2015, 10:51:05 pm
Although it does not matter one iota, by custom, the red OT wire should go to the B+ and the blue should go to the plate of the output tube.
Except when it squeals.
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: p2pAmps on September 25, 2015, 05:38:37 am
Although it does not matter one iota, by custom, the red OT wire should go to the B+ and the blue should go to the plate of the output tube.
Except when it squeals.

And boy did it squeal! 
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: p2pAmps on September 25, 2015, 05:42:14 am

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One lead dress question - it looks like the junction of the two 68K resistors with the shielded wire going to the first triode grid is unsupported. Is there a turret under there not shown in the photo?

I use shielded cab for the input tied to the 2 68K resistors.  Yes there are not turrets for that but I have honestly never had a problem.  I know Marshalls and some other tie the 68Ks to the board but never have seen it on any Fender yet.  So far it works for me.  Good eye...
Title: Re: Hoffman Tweed Princeton #001
Post by: EL34 on September 25, 2015, 07:32:37 am
That should not be a problem.
Those 68k carbons in that config are pretty stout