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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: p2pAmps on September 28, 2015, 10:52:37 am
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Guys,
Can anyone point me to a place I can buy a Tweed Tremolux chassis? I asked Doug and he didn't know so I thought you guys may know a place. I want one with the correct screen printing and number of holes as well. The Bandmaster is close but the printing is wrong and there is a hole for a standby and ground switch.
Thanks in advance.
Mike
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Maybe try Weber Speakers. :icon_biggrin:
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Maybe try Weber Speakers. :icon_biggrin:
No go at Weber
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:dontknow:
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That's a tough one. This is not exactly what you asked for but it may be of interest. I've dealt with Marsh several times. He's solid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marsh-5G9-Tremolux-Faceplate-Overlay-New-/351530417768?hash=item51d8d87e68 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marsh-5G9-Tremolux-Faceplate-Overlay-New-/351530417768?hash=item51d8d87e68)
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That's a tough one. This is not exactly what you asked for but it may be of interest. I've dealt with Marsh several times. He's solid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marsh-5G9-Tremolux-Faceplate-Overlay-New-/351530417768?hash=item51d8d87e68 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marsh-5G9-Tremolux-Faceplate-Overlay-New-/351530417768?hash=item51d8d87e68)
Thanks Steve,
I am hoping to find an exact replica of a Fender chassis if that is possible. I would hate to have to build my own even if I could :0)
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I can't say I've ever seen a repro tweed Tremolux chassis.
I also kick myself for having sold a '55 Tremolux, as I like it better than the tweed Deluxes. I really like the trem...
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I can't say I've ever seen a repro tweed Tremolux chassis.
I also kick myself for having sold a '55 Tremolux, as I like it better than the tweed Deluxes. I really like the trem...
I just want to build one for myself and can't afford 4K for a vintage one...
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Fender did a reissue of the amp. Check with their parts department. It will probably have "EC" on it somewhere.
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That is a good idea except when I have called before on stuff like that they won't sell just a chassis. There is a guy in Thailand named Songwut that does chassis and plates but not for a Tremolux. This will be a personal build (not for sale) so I want to build a solid replica. I hope a really cool chassis shows up...
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That EC Tremolux is quite different from the 5E9 or 5G9.
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This should be easy but I am finding out otherwise :cussing:
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Tone Quest Report mag. did an interview not long ago, with an amp builder who builds 5G9's.
IIRC, they are clones in chassis, circuit and cab shape/size. He might be willing to sell a chassis.
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Tone Quest Report mag. did an interview not long ago, with an amp builder who builds 5G9's.
IIRC, they are clones in chassis, circuit and cab shape/size. He might be willing to sell a chassis.
Thanks Willabe but I can't find anything on that site :(
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Call him, David. Ask him who builds the 5G9, then you can look at the guys web site and then call or email him about a chassis.
Davids a nice guy, easy to talk with. I know you don't like to blow your own horn but if you tell him who you've played for, that will open the door wide for you. Heck he talks with me. :laugh:
If you have no luck I'll dig through my back copies and find it for you. :icon_biggrin:
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Ha, found it! :icon_biggrin:
RetroKing amps, TQR mag, April, 2015/Vol.16 NO.6. It's the cover story, RetroKing Tremolux.
He's using Jupiter Yellows. :icon_biggrin:
http://www.retrokingamps.com/index.htm (http://www.retrokingamps.com/index.htm)
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Thanks man, I will shoot him a call
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Ha, found it! :icon_biggrin:
RetroKing amps, TQR mag, April, 2015/Vol.16 NO.6. It's the cover story, RetroKing Tremolux.
He's using Jupiter Yellows. :icon_biggrin:
http://www.retrokingamps.com/index.htm (http://www.retrokingamps.com/index.htm)
So look close Willabe at the panel in this link. Notice there is only a Pilot, on/off , and fuse... All the chassis I have found have too many holes (standby / ground).
(http://p2pamps.com/tremolux.jpg)
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You do want an exact clone. :laugh:
A standby with a 5U4 rectifier, no controlled warm up, is a good thing. The ground switch won't do anything with a 3 wire power cord, so it's dead weight.
All the chassis I have found have too many holes (standby / ground).
Where? Maybe some of the other guys would still want 1 with the extra holes?
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That EC Tremolux is quite different from the 5E9 or 5G9.
I have not seen one, what are the differences. Someone wrongly told me it was a 5G9 replica like the Marsh.
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Take a look at musiciansfriend.com
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Take a look at musiciansfriend.com
Has a high/low and only 2 inputs. It is different. I think I will find the schematic and see what they have done different.
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More than that. Only 3 knobs. Lost a volume and the depth controls.
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Did a search for EC Tremolux and their saying it's a single channel 50's tweed deluxe, 5Y3, 2x6V6,3x12AX7, with grid bias and bias trem but only trem speed no depth control. Has built in power attenuator. Hand wired, $1999.00.
Does not say which PI. 5E3 has concertina PI, 5G9 has LTPI.
5E3 and 5G9 have the same preamp and controls, 4x input jacks, 2x volume, single tone. 5E3 has 5Y3 rectifier, 5G9 uses 5U4.
5E3 is K bias, 5G9 is grid bias. 5G9 has extra 12AX7 for grid bias trem with speed and depth controls.
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sort of off topic but there is a real deal '56 on ebay right now for $2200 and it's in really nice shape
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-Tweed-Fender-Tremolux-amplifier-amp-/252098619262 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-Tweed-Fender-Tremolux-amplifier-amp-/252098619262)
also a '59
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1959-USA-FENDER-TWEED-TREMOLUX-5E9-A-CIRCUIT-TUBE-GUITAR-AMPLIFIER-/351530867047 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1959-USA-FENDER-TWEED-TREMOLUX-5E9-A-CIRCUIT-TUBE-GUITAR-AMPLIFIER-/351530867047)
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Photos of the EC Trmolux circuit board show fixed bias, long tail inverter and bias vary tremolo acting on the output tube grids.
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Photos of the EC Trmolux circuit board show fixed bias, long tail inverter and bias vary tremolo acting on the output tube grids.
So it's more 5G9 than 5E3. Wonder why they stayed with the 5Y3 rectifier tube?
Their probable saying it's based on the 5E3 because it way more well known than the 5G9.
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I have a new never used Victoria 5F4 chassis/faceplate I could sell and according to Marsh their 5G9 Tremolux faceplate fits the 5F4 chassis.
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I am really striving for a chassis just like this...
(http://p2pamps.com/tremolux-panel.jpg)
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You may have to find someone to make the chassis from scratch and spend $$$ over the readily-available chassis options.
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You may have to find someone to make the chassis from scratch and spend $$$ over the readily-available chassis options.
I'm afraid you may be right. Well if it comes to that I would certainly make more than one for any others desiring a correct chassis. We'll see....
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If you guys find a good replica chassis, let me know
They have to sell at wholesale to dealers or it's a no go.
The Victoria chassis are galvanized metal with separate chrome face plates
I am not interested in dealing with Victoria again
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If you guys find a good replica chassis, let me know
They have to sell at wholesale to dealers or it's a no go.
The Victoria chassis are galvanized metal with separate chrome face plates
I am not interested in dealing with Victoria again
Agree on all points made... I am searching high and low so we will see what happens
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So far I have struck out on an exact chassis needed for my project.... Bummed out a little
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I can't keep the alphabet soup tweed amp models straight without constantly looking back at the Fender Field Guide, but i do remember that Weber, a few years back, did a special run of chassis for one of the less common models. Can't remember which one. Maybe if you were to do some agitating on the various amp boards, and get enough people to commit to buying one (or more) if they were made available, Weber could be persuaded to make them?
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So far I have struck out on an exact chassis needed for my project.... Bummed out a little
why does it have to be EXACT? is there some mystique we're missing in the chassis geometry?
surely if you throw enough money at it, someone will happily make one for you...
http://www.seasidechassisdesign.com/more-completed-chassis-.html (http://www.seasidechassisdesign.com/more-completed-chassis-.html)
http://www.tubeampchassis.com/OEM%20Custom%20Chassis%20Info/Custom_Amp_Chassis_Information.html (http://www.tubeampchassis.com/OEM%20Custom%20Chassis%20Info/Custom_Amp_Chassis_Information.html)
good luck with your quest. :-)
--pete
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So far I have struck out on an exact chassis needed for my project.... Bummed out a little
why does it have to be EXACT? is there some mystique we're missing in the chassis geometry?
surely if you throw enough money at it, someone will happily make one for you...
http://www.seasidechassisdesign.com/more-completed-chassis-.html (http://www.seasidechassisdesign.com/more-completed-chassis-.html)
http://www.tubeampchassis.com/OEM%20Custom%20Chassis%20Info/Custom_Amp_Chassis_Information.html (http://www.tubeampchassis.com/OEM%20Custom%20Chassis%20Info/Custom_Amp_Chassis_Information.html)
good luck with your quest. :-)
--pete
Well, I would like it exact as that is what my friend who I am building this for desires. I at least want the screen printing correct.
Thank you for the links...
Thanks Pete
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these guys could probably do a run of them.
I think they supply Weber .... not 100% sure on that one,
worth an inquiry anyway
http://www.mableaudio.com/en/contact.html (http://www.mableaudio.com/en/contact.html)
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The brown face tremolux that http://www.seasidechassisdesign.com/more-completed-chassis-.html (http://www.seasidechassisdesign.com/more-completed-chassis-.html) sells is from my chassis data I had him make for me to fit an original brownface Tremolux head cab I owned. The faceplates are available on ebay or I got mine from a EU dealer.
He could build a tweed tremolux chassis if you give him size and he does punch some stuff.
Mark
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The brown face tremolux that http://www.seasidechassisdesign.com/more-completed-chassis-.html (http://www.seasidechassisdesign.com/more-completed-chassis-.html) sells is from my chassis data I had him make for me to fit an original brownface Tremolux head cab I owned. The faceplates are available on ebay or I got mine from a EU dealer.
He could build a tweed tremolux chassis if you give him size and he does punch some stuff.
Mark
Hi Mark,
I talked to these guys a few days ago and they don't do any chrome plating or screen printing. Their stuff looks nice however.
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I think I have someone who can make up some Tremolux chassis. Any chance someone has a CAD drawing or know how to do one?
Mike
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I think I have someone who can make up some Tremolux chassis. Any chance someone has a CAD drawing or know how to do one?
Mike
i can help.
--pete
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I think I have someone who can make up some Tremolux chassis. Any chance someone has a CAD drawing or know how to do one?
Mike
i can help.
--pete
Hi Pete, PM sent
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No such thing, not anymore. Webber used to have one and one other company did also but I can't remember. I just finished my Tweed 5G9(a must have) and I wound up using Mojotone's http://www.mojotone.com/amp-parts/chassis-fender-tweed/Tweed-Narrow-Panel-Super-Style-5F4-Pro-5E5A-Chassis#.ViOqMFX3aJI. (http://www.mojotone.com/amp-parts/chassis-fender-tweed/Tweed-Narrow-Panel-Super-Style-5F4-Pro-5E5A-Chassis#.ViOqMFX3aJI.) Exactly what you need but faceplate is incorrect. I'm opting to have a plate made for me eventually, I already spoke to Mojotone's techs about all the spacing but :dontknow: I had to carefully measure everything out. If you have any questions just ask. I did use Mercy PT so I can get as close as possible to current specs and use the 5U4GB
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Just read this thread over and thank you Ed, the other company was Marsh. That faceplate would work, minus the half/full switch.