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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: keithv on November 16, 2015, 11:12:30 am

Title: Center tap fuse on JTM45
Post by: keithv on November 16, 2015, 11:12:30 am
The JTM45 is a clone of the 5F6a for the most part, right?  But the 5F6a didn't have a fuse on the center tap of the PT secondaries.  What is the purpose of this fuse?
Title: Re: Center tap fuse on JTM45
Post by: sluckey on November 16, 2015, 11:30:30 am
That fuse provides protection for the PT HT winding in the event of an over current situation in the B+ circuit.
Title: Re: Center tap fuse on JTM45
Post by: keithv on November 16, 2015, 11:32:44 am
Why don't all amps use this?  Doesn't the mains fuse serve the same purpose as well?
Title: Re: Center tap fuse on JTM45
Post by: shooter on November 16, 2015, 11:43:06 am
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Doesn't the mains fuse serve the same purpose
The mains might not be quick enough to respond to a DC *issue*?
I believe the HV fuse would be internal, hence a "qualified" service person checking things out verses a guitar player just jamin in another fuse
Title: Re: Center tap fuse on JTM45
Post by: tubeswell on November 16, 2015, 11:51:05 am
Why don't all amps use this? 


I put HT fuses in all my amps, but its extra expense



Doesn't the mains fuse serve the same purpose as well?


No


A mains fuse is there to stop the PT catching fire. An HT fuse is there to protect the OT from a short between the PT secondary/power rail to ground
Title: Re: Center tap fuse on JTM45
Post by: sluckey on November 16, 2015, 12:06:11 pm
I don't like the idea of putting a fuse (or a STBY switch) in the HT center tap in an amp that has a bias circuit that is fed from another tap on the HT winding. When that fuse blows (or you open that STBY switch) the B+ filter caps will seek a path through the bias supply to the bias tap which now operates as an un-centered center tap. This will put a big positive voltage on the bias filter caps, often ruining them. That fuse would be much safer in the B+ line or even use two fuses in the PT HT leads prior to the rectifier.