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Other Stuff => Other Topics => Topic started by: alerich on February 19, 2016, 09:11:00 pm
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Seems Ritchie won't be there. Without him and Jon Lord it barely seems like DP.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/deep-purple-guitarist-ritchie-blackmore-wont-attend-hall-of-fame-ceremony-20160219 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/deep-purple-guitarist-ritchie-blackmore-wont-attend-hall-of-fame-ceremony-20160219)
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That's too bad. That said, unless you have been a (touring) band, you never really know how many seemingly small events can accumulate into such drama and ill feelings or how stupid and unforgiving egos can become. Or whether there are contemporary optics, business issues in play. What great musicians in their heyday. Actually hope they can work something out ahead of a swan song event. Regards
dennis
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I knew this would happen. Bruce Payne is an ass that screwed Ritchie over in the past and Ian Gillan would never (like he said) let it happen. I think Steve Morse has tenure on Ritchie by about five years now as the guitar player (ugh, I feel dirty....). So I'm sure he feels like he should be standing up there.
What would really be cool is to have Ritchie perform with the MK3 lineup. If they could talk Paicey and Don Airey into it... It would be great to see Coverdale, Hughes, Paice, Airey, and Blackmore do Burn and Stormbringer! Besides, the Burn album alone probably sold more than all 10 albums put together that Morse has performed on. DP's current live shows are about 70% of the Blackmore era anyway.
And yes, it's a shame that Lord is not here to see this and possibly perform. Don Airey is a monster keyboard player - but he doesn't play like Jon. Morse is a capable guitarist, but sounds absolutely NOTHING like Ritchie. The current lineup of DP is a pale shell.
Jim
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Ha, what am I thinking... A MK3 reunion would never happen at that event. Hughes and Coverdale (especially Hughes) can probably sing better than they did back in the 70's. Hughes is a freak of nature. They would blow away the current lineup.
I still say Ian Gillan back in the day was the best RR singer EVER. But everyone gets old. All that screaming and smoking has taken its toll.
Jim
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What about this version of the band? Holy crap, I heard Satch did a great job but wow.... Just found this reminiscing... :sad2: If only he would have joined instead of Morse....
Jim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyN99q8Wo9k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyN99q8Wo9k)
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I knew this would happen. Bruce Payne is an ass that screwed Ritchie over in the past and Ian Gillan would never (like he said) let it happen. I think Steve Morse has tenure on Ritchie by about five years now as the guitar player (ugh, I feel dirty....). So I'm sure he feels like he should be standing up there.
He won't be, at least not for the acceptance speeches. Per the web:
"The DEEP PURPLE members that are being inducted are: Ritchie Blackmore, David Coverdale, Rod Evans, Ian Gillan, Roger Glover, Glenn Hughes, Jon Lord and Ian Paice."
My guess is that you'll see Coverdale and Hughes join the current lineup on stage according to an interview I read with Ian Paice. He's a big supporter of the current lineup. Sad that they left Tommy Bolin out. He produced some fine work during his short tenure in the band. Include Rod Evans and omit Tommy Bolin? I don't get that logic. Can't remember a band with so many different permutations in its history. I loved Machine Head. One of the great classic rock and roll albums of all time. No filler on that one.
Having said all of this I don't get all worked up over the HoF. I totally get inducting some of the classic R&B and soul artists. When they started including rappers and particularly when the Deep Purples and such had been overlooked... I kinda lost interest in it.
Nobody will ever top Alex Lifeson's acceptance speech. I was in tears from laughing so hard.
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Rod Evans probably because the Mk1 version broke the band with Hush and to a lesser extent, Help and Kentucky Woman. But then why not Nick Simpler too? Rod was the one with all the legal issues with Purple too. Ian Gillan has called the whole Hall of Fame thing a joke and annoying. Who knows what his speech will be! It may just rival Alex's! :l2:
Yeah, the R&RHoF is a joke with inclusions of music styles that can not be further from rock and the exclusion of some huge influential bands. I don't pay any attention. I hate "all-star" jams and they only let the bands play for 10 minutes for a lifetime of music. It's ridiculous.
Jim
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Seems Ritchie won't be there.
I heard that this was simple logistics...
They just couldn't find any doors big enough to fit his head through.
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Oh, you are a very bad boy! :l2:
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Oh, you are a very bad boy! :l2:
:laugh: Oh yes he is.
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:laugh:
facepalm.
--pete
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Oh well,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnQxpi1WcQ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnQxpi1WcQ0)
Because,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbPNstHPNvM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbPNstHPNvM)
Jim :sad2:
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It appears SG's point is valid and spot on? Blackmore has always been a mix of diva and drama queen typical of those that made it to the the top of their profession BUT with the caveat being in the entertainment industry where all perspective is lost when so many worship at their feet. Ironically he's getting the same treatment here that he's dished out on so many concerts and occasions?
"Deep Purple frontman Ian Gillan has defended the band’s decision not to perform with co-founder and former guitarist Ritchie Blackmore at the upcoming Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony.
The guitar great announced on Friday (19Feb16) he would not be attending the New York gala in April (16), because his former bandmates did not want to play with him.
The statement split Deep Purple fans, who were hoping to see a reunion at the band’s long-awaited induction, but singer Gillan insists no one was trying to hurt Blackmore’s feelings.
“We were faced with a hard decision when we heard about the Hall Of Fame inductions,” he says in a statement. “It was a surprise to us that (current Deep Purple stars) Steve Morse and Don Airey did not qualify as inductees.
“Ian Gillan, Ian Paice and Roger Glover decided upon the offer of a compromise which has been agreed with the Hall Of Fame and enables us to turn up on the night. DEEP PURPLE inductees will accept the awards and then the living breathing DEEP PURPLE will perform.”
“It should be stressed that there is no slight intended nor any desire to upset anyone regarding this decision; it is purely a mark of respect to Steve and Don,” Gillan adds. “I spoke with (former singer) David Coverdale last week and he expressed complete understanding of the way it was being handled.”
The rocker goes on to stress the induction will not spark a Deep Purple reunion, but insists all members and past members will be civil at the ceremony.
“Let’s all get up there, shake hands, smile for the cameras and get it done with dignity and respect for all the existing and past members of a very special family,” he writes."
Rare footage indeed... http://youtu.be/bYPbSPisb5Y (http://youtu.be/bYPbSPisb5Y)
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Ian is a freaking liar.... Love you man, but you are so full of crap I can smell you from here. What BS. There have been plenty of bands inducted who brought all the members on stage to perform. Gillan is the diva and drama queen on this one. This ego is why he quit in '73 and got fired in '87. I've read books by both and others, and personally talked to people who were there. Ritchie is no angel, but Ian is just as bad. The band has always been against him and now that Jon Lord isn't around to play nursemaid, he has leverage with the other members. Here is his chance to pee on the tree at Ritchie's expense. Ritchie quit in '93 and Ian has spent the last 23 years talking crap about Ritchie. Ritchie has not said a word and has just been happily doing his renaissance music. Ian was drinking like a fish, show up for the shows drunk and forget the lyrics. That and smoking like a chimney was destroying his voice. Ritchie would have a roadie tape the lyrics to the floor and Ian would rip them up and throw them at Ritchie. Ritchie was just done with it and left. I think Ritchie is the one who has taken the high road with this hall of fame row. What a shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL9zwX5LzxQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL9zwX5LzxQ)
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One more story that pretty much explains the dynamics of the Mk2 lineup. When they reunited in 84 they went into the studio to record. It was agreed that they would start at 9:00am. Ritchie shows up at 8:30. Jon showed up at Noon. The rest showed up around 2-3:00. Ritchie had spent the time noodling on his guitar. When everyone finally arrived, Ritchie asked the manager what time they would be starting in the morning. He says, "9:00". So Ritchie packs up his guitar and leaves. The next day everyone is on time - except for Gillan. Ritchie was like, come on, we aren't teenagers! Jon Lord went on to say that everyone came in with some ideas and Ritchie just blew them away with the arrangements he already had and the albums were basically all his. Gillan always says that Ritchie was killing the band.... Ummm no. Again, one of those fiery relationships that made some phenomenal music when they weren't trying to kill each other.
Jim
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Well Lars did a pretty good job with his induction speech. I saw the same tour he is talking about in 1973, certainly changed my life too. In the interview room all questions were about Ritchie and even a question stating the only reason they are there was due to the material Ritchie was involved with in the 70's. Gillan was visibly pissed and kept saying, "We invited him twice, we invited him twice!" Until someone said, "To jam with you on stage?" Gillan lies and said, "We invited him..." Love you Ian, but you are a liar. Gees, let it go for a night, what a dip... I still wish Ritchie would have shown up and played with Coverdale and Hughes. That would have brought the house down. What a shame. Another shame is that Deep Purple were eligible for the Hall in 1993 and it's taken this long. What a crock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow7Fsq7AmKE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow7Fsq7AmKE)
I think Zakk Wylde pretty much hits the nail on the head. This is hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPgp1tQxsRw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPgp1tQxsRw)
HOWEVER, listen to what Stevie Guitar Miller said!!! Holly cow!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umI7MkgwS7M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umI7MkgwS7M)