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Title: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: kagliostro on October 13, 2016, 07:08:52 am
There are some of you, the first that must be mentioned is Doug

that realizes board with components with perfectly straight rheophores, this gives a fantastic look to the layout

Is this due to a patient work with pliers or you have a secret technique to do that ??

Thanks

Franco
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: sluckey on October 13, 2016, 08:25:42 am
What's a reophores?
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: VMS on October 13, 2016, 08:36:02 am

Maybe he meant rheophores.

from wiktionary:


rheophore ‎(plural rheophores (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rheophores#English)[/b])(obsolete (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#obsolete),[/i] physics (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/physics)) Any wire (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wire), electrode (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/electrode) or connector (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/connector) that conducts (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/conduct) electricity (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/electricity)
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: kagliostro on October 13, 2016, 08:38:08 am
Ciao Steve

Sorry if I've used a wrong term

rheophores = reofori which is the correct name in italian,  rheophores is the translation I get with google translator

(I put it correct in the title and wrote reophores on the text)

How do you call the "legs" (llittle pieces of wire to be used for connections) of resistors and capacitors ?

@ VMS

that is (but here refers to the "legs" of components)

Franco
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: sluckey on October 13, 2016, 08:45:50 am
I just call them wires if they leave the board and connect to an off-board component such as a tube socket. If it's simply a connection between two components on the board, I call it a jumper.

I don't recall ever hearing that word before.
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: p2pAmps on October 13, 2016, 08:47:16 am
I call that kind of work "Pride" in what you do.  To me, its all the things people can't see.  Good thing I'm not a tech for a living!
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: kagliostro on October 13, 2016, 08:48:13 am
No, not the wires that go from board to sockets or jumpers

I mean the small wires that are part of the components like resistors and capacitors

Franco
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: VMS on October 13, 2016, 08:49:31 am
Component "legs" are called leads.
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: kagliostro on October 13, 2016, 08:55:28 am
Ah, OK, Leads

So now, which is the technique you use to have it perfectly straight ?

A lot of patience and pliers or what elese ?

Franco
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: shooter on October 13, 2016, 08:56:44 am
Vms was faster!, leads, or legs, in the 'ol days I called it "lead dress".  they make "crimping" tools to straighten the legs, forms to get the nice radius bends.  P2P got it, pride, or workmanship, the difference between a B+ or A in school.
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: kagliostro on October 13, 2016, 09:01:01 am
Ciao Shooter

I know the tool to bend leads, Doug sell it, but I was wondering about to have it perfectly strigh for our builds

with turrets or eyelets

(http://www.tjadamowicz.com/amps/gallery/HRDconv/HRD-5E5A-pi1.jpg)

Franco
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: sluckey on October 13, 2016, 09:04:00 am
Ah, now I finally understand. I call those leads or sometimes legs. Those TO-39 style 8 leg op amps make some cute little bugs with 6 legs and 2 antenna. :wink:
 
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: kagliostro on October 13, 2016, 09:09:14 am
Yes, as you say


(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1413/1364153441_b333713825_m.jpg)

Here the original


(http://cdn.grid.fotosearch.com/FSD/FSD510/x14342590.jpg)


 :l2: :laugh: :l2:


Franco
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: VMS on October 13, 2016, 09:10:26 am

Doug sells a lead bender tool that could be helpful.

Scroll down this page:


http://el34world.com/charts/toolhowto.htm (http://el34world.com/charts/toolhowto.htm)




For me it is using new components and hoping I get it right the first time.
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: kagliostro on October 13, 2016, 09:12:58 am
Thanks

but I'm not asking for that, see Reply #10

Franco

p.s.: I've a lot (really a large quantity) of capacitors that are new but has the leads all crooked
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: Willabe on October 13, 2016, 11:56:36 am
Some/most on line parts suppliers send the parts in a plastic bag that they have to bend the leads some to get them in.

I use a smooth jaw flat nose pliers to straighten the leads. It's a pain in the......  :laugh:   

Mine are similar to these below.
 
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: shooter on October 13, 2016, 01:01:52 pm
can't find any ol pic's from back when, like Steve said, these were fun, bend some R's around, some wire, couple caps and you had functioning art.
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: kagliostro on October 13, 2016, 01:14:51 pm
@ Willabe

I'll get one of those pliers with flat nose

@ Shooter

https://www.google.it/search?q=resistors+and+capacitors+art&client=opera&hs=TDS&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRl8TvsNjPAhWGQBQKHac4Bv8Q_AUICCgB&biw=1152&bih=632#imgrc=_ (https://www.google.it/search?q=resistors+and+capacitors+art&client=opera&hs=TDS&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRl8TvsNjPAhWGQBQKHac4Bv8Q_AUICCgB&biw=1152&bih=632#imgrc=_)

 :icon_biggrin:

Ciao

Franco
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: jim on October 15, 2016, 08:34:43 am
There is often a flat section on many needle nose pliers that can be used.  Check yours...maybe another tool is not necessary.  I draw the lead through the flat with minimal pressure on the plier. Rotate. Do it again.  It is easy to pull leads out of the rolled yellow metallized paper caps and also small value polystyrenes so be careful. Jim
Title: Re: Which is yours secret ? (I mean perfectly straight rheophores on yours works)
Post by: kagliostro on October 15, 2016, 10:07:20 am
Thanks Jim

Franco