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Title: Looking for switch
Post by: dude on March 25, 2017, 10:37:18 am
Can't seem to find a switch the size of a Carling on/off switch (need to use in an amp's input hole on face frame, I believe it's 3/8"), need a simple STSP on-on-on switch. I see some on Mouser but some are (on) on (on), don't know what the parenthesis mean...? And not sure what would be the right switch from Mouser.


What I want is center - both sides on, and the other two just each side on independently. Just three taps solder tabs. Meaning in the center both the outer tabs are connected. Not looking for a mini switch.


I f a DTDP would work, I don't seem to understand how to wire it. Rather get a STSP


thanks for any help,
al
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: kagliostro on March 25, 2017, 11:02:32 am
Are you looking for one of this ?


https://www.tube-town.net/ttstore/Switch/Toggle-Switch/Toggle-Switch-APEM-644-H-2-DP3T-ON-ON-ON::7379.html (https://www.tube-town.net/ttstore/Switch/Toggle-Switch/Toggle-Switch-APEM-644-H-2-DP3T-ON-ON-ON::7379.html)


Franco
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: dude on March 25, 2017, 01:41:21 pm
Not sure, I looked at the data and still not sure.


Here's a pic, three tabs, three positions, lower position connects the middle and lower tab, upper position connects the middle and upper tab, middle connects both.


To fit a 3/8" hole, not a mini switch. appreciate any help, I don't know what to look for at Mouser or another place, like to stay in US.


Thanks, al
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: sluckey on March 25, 2017, 03:10:59 pm
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To fit a 3/8" hole, not a mini switch.
That's the hard part. Most toggle switches will require a 1/2" or 1/4" hole. Are you not willing to ream the 3/8" hole so the larger switch will fit? Or use a bushing so the smaller switch will fit?
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: kagliostro on March 25, 2017, 03:27:01 pm
The switch I posted the link is 12.2mm (near 1/2") so not for you

http://www.tube-town.net/info/datenblaetter/apem-600H.pdf (http://www.tube-town.net/info/datenblaetter/apem-600H.pdf)

Seems that your problem is a broken lever .... are you able to find one other switch (not ON-ON-ON) that is of the same kind

and borrow the intact lever to be put on your switch ?

if you are looking for a small switch, I've ordered (and received) this from China

4 pieces for 7.59$

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-Chrome-DP3T-3-Way-Guitar-Toggle-Switch-ON-ON-ON-3-WAY-Control-DIY-Harness-/291645794299? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-Chrome-DP3T-3-Way-Guitar-Toggle-Switch-ON-ON-ON-3-WAY-Control-DIY-Harness-/291645794299?)

Franco


p.s.: I forgot, you asked about, "( )= Momentary"


and here how to connect the DPDT ON ON ON for your purpose

(http://www.tdpri.com/attachments/switches2_diag_4-jpg.206966/)


EDIT: If yoy want you can use a 2 way 3 position rotary switch (if you find one)

(http://i.imgur.com/Aup9UMm.jpg)

Position 1 = A + B

Position 2 = A

Position 3 = B
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: dude on March 25, 2017, 05:32:56 pm
I'll mess with diagrams you posted and see if I can get what I want I know there'sa way to get a DTDP switch to do what I want and I have one, thanks.                                               I tried to change the bat toggle but it's fixed, doesn't come out.  Thanks, al
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: kagliostro on March 25, 2017, 05:57:43 pm
Have you open the switch from the back to pull the lever ?

May be you must use a punch to remove the pivot of the lever

Franco


p.s.: I don't think a DPDT is usable for that purpose, it has 2 useful position ON-OFF-ON and you need 3, if it was possible, no reason for an ON-ON-ON switch
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: dude on March 25, 2017, 08:21:14 pm
Yeah, the bat has a pin and I can punch it out but I don't have another bat that has a pin to hold it in.


I guess I'll have to use a mini switch and bushing like Sluckey suggested.


If I go with a 1/4" mini switch, what would I look for Doug doesn't carry any on-on-on mini's.


Besides on-on-on what do I need?


Triple throw, single pole?
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: sluckey on March 25, 2017, 11:08:33 pm
I like the C&K 7211. Plenty on eBay at reasonable prices. They come in a variety of toggle types. Be sure to get the mini with a 1/4" bushing size. Easy to wire. Look on the bottom of page 2 of this pdf...

     http://sluckeyamps.com/VAC15/Vox_AC15_mods.pdf (http://sluckeyamps.com/VAC15/Vox_AC15_mods.pdf)

Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: dude on March 26, 2017, 11:14:34 am
I like the C&K 7211. Plenty on eBay at reasonable prices. They come in a variety of toggle types. Be sure to get the mini with a 1/4" bushing size. Easy to wire. Look on the bottom of page 2 of this pdf...

     http://sluckeyamps.com/VAC15/Vox_AC15_mods.pdf (http://sluckeyamps.com/VAC15/Vox_AC15_mods.pdf)


Ebay doesn't have any 7211 switches now but I'll dig further in their sellers stores, Mouser has the C&K 7211, it's about $12.50 there. BTW, some cool mods on that link, thanks.


al
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: sluckey on March 26, 2017, 12:03:24 pm
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Ebay doesn't have any 7211 switches now
Yes they do. I looked just before I posted. Search for c&k 7211.

I believe digikey has the best price if you don't want to do eBay. I got all mine from eBay.


Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: kagliostro on March 26, 2017, 02:25:14 pm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/On-On-On-Mini-toggle-switch-High-quality-Made-by-C-K-Great-price/252242821381?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41809%26meid%3Db94fdf2a30ae4ec188c6c2f77666e71a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D302258381107#shpCntId (http://www.ebay.com/itm/On-On-On-Mini-toggle-switch-High-quality-Made-by-C-K-Great-price/252242821381?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41809%26meid%3Db94fdf2a30ae4ec188c6c2f77666e71a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D302258381107#shpCntId)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GiwAAOSwPcVVnpts/s-l1600.jpg)

Franco
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: dude on March 26, 2017, 10:15:26 pm
Thanks, I bought one on ebay.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Looking for switch
Post by: kagliostro on March 27, 2017, 02:20:12 am
That is fine

my 2c, orther the original 7211 and then order also this (4 pieces at 7.59$) as spare parts

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-Chrome-DP3T-3-Way-Guitar-Toggle-Switch-ON-ON-ON-3-WAY-Control-DIY-Harness-/291645794299? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-Chrome-DP3T-3-Way-Guitar-Toggle-Switch-ON-ON-ON-3-WAY-Control-DIY-Harness-/291645794299?)

you'll wait for it but the price is good and may be a good thing to have a spare part

Franco