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Title: Peavey 6505 piranha
Post by: fossilshark on May 10, 2017, 08:12:42 am
I saw a peavey 6505 piranha at my local music shop and noticed it was just a single 12ax7 inside. No schematics online (curse the corporations) but the operating manual says it takes a +/- 30vDC supply. I also noticed there were no big death caps (saw mabey one cap looked like 2200uf) so im assuming its running the 12ax7 off the 30v supply with a SS power amp.

Can someone point me in the direction of a high gain single 12ax7 design like this? I want to use it with a 5w LM384 power amp chip.
Title: Re: Peavey 6505 piranha
Post by: kagliostro on May 10, 2017, 04:07:24 pm
I know there are 12v projects that use a 12A*7 family tube, but seems they are used in pedals, not for preamp

however I think that is reasonable to think that they use a quadrupler so the voltage that feed the plate of the

tube can be a normal Haigh Voltage we see in many preamps

In your project you can adopt the back to back transformer configuration that is used on Doug's tube pedal

Doug also sell the small transformer and wall supply that are required

here you can see how the thing is arranged

http://el34world.com/projects/tube_box_3.htm (http://el34world.com/projects/tube_box_3.htm)

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... high gain single 12ax7

On a single 12ax7 you have 2 triodes, for a real High Gain I think you need, at least, 3 triodes, 1 more than what you have in a single 12ax7


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May be you can obtain what you want using a 12ax7 in cascode configuration followed with a mosfed configured as Source Follower to drive a Tone Stack


http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/cascode.html (http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/cascode.html)



Franco
Title: Re: Peavey 6505 piranha
Post by: kagliostro on May 12, 2017, 04:50:33 am
I've find this schematic (very far to be a single tube preamp  :dontknow: )

https://images6.static-thomann.de/pics/atg/atgdata/file/diagram/180482_schaltbild.pdf (https://images6.static-thomann.de/pics/atg/atgdata/file/diagram/180482_schaltbild.pdf)

Franco
Title: Re: Peavey 6505 piranha
Post by: smackoj on May 12, 2017, 05:47:18 am
I agree with Franco, that "high gain" one tube preamp is not really a common design. Most of the one tube devices I have seen are running low voltage and are aptly named 'overdrive' or 'distortion' because that is what they do to your signal. I followed the link to Doug's two tube design and it looks quite nice and it has plenty of tone shaping for preamp type usage. If it were me, I would build a small SS amp using a complete design with preamp and power amp chips, then put a one tube overdrive pedal in front. That way you are building two proven designs which should produce stable, usable amplification.