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Title: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: ElPedro on May 13, 2017, 09:33:22 am
Hey all.  Having trouble with my Fender Twin.  The Vibrato takes a little bit to engage after I turn it on. Once it has come on, I can turn it on and off and it works fine.

When I first turn it on, I can hear the vibrato thumping, but the guitar signal isn't getting through to the vibrato.

I'll try swapping the tube, but are there any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: sluckey on May 13, 2017, 12:53:08 pm
Which model twin are you talking about? There's a big difference in the vibrato circuits of different models.
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: ElPedro on May 13, 2017, 02:20:38 pm
Sorry...

It's an ab763. Not a reissue.
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: sluckey on May 13, 2017, 03:25:13 pm
Replace the tube first. Then replace the roach (optocoupler).
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: PRR on May 13, 2017, 09:37:29 pm
> Vibrato takes a little bit to engage after I turn it on

Slow-to-start is more likely tube or cathode cap.

It *could* be that once it comes on, it holds a charge for a while so then it goes off/on quickly, but not if it has been dead a while.

Without looking, if this model has a kick-start (negative bias when off), that could have failed, but unlikely.

I would rate opto-coupler low on a list of slow-to-start reasons, but optos do have some strange failures.
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: ElPedro on May 13, 2017, 09:55:59 pm
Thank you for your thoughts and ideas. I will try the tube and cap tomorrow. This is a kickstart model - I remember the pin on the back of the rca jack read somewhere around -55vdc when I checked it.
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: DummyLoad on May 13, 2017, 11:54:11 pm
> Vibrato takes a little bit to engage after I turn it on

Slow-to-start is more likely tube or cathode cap.

It *could* be that once it comes on, it holds a charge for a while so then it goes off/on quickly, but not if it has been dead a while.

Without looking, if this model has a kick-start (negative bias when off), that could have failed, but unlikely.

I would rate opto-coupler low on a list of slow-to-start reasons, but optos do have some strange failures.


+1


if new tube doesn't do the trick, replace cathode cap with a 47uF 25V.


--pete
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: ElPedro on May 14, 2017, 05:57:47 am
Would a 50u 50v work ok?
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: sluckey on May 14, 2017, 07:29:48 am
yes
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: ElPedro on May 15, 2017, 07:07:57 am
Thanks, all.  It was the roach.
Title: Re: Fender Twin Vibrato Problem
Post by: PRR on May 15, 2017, 11:03:32 pm
So Sluckey was right.