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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: ceeya68 on November 04, 2017, 12:55:41 pm

Title: How Do I?
Post by: ceeya68 on November 04, 2017, 12:55:41 pm
How do I put a one tube spring reverb in this amp I have built? It's basically a marshall 2204 build. But you will notice I have made some modifications to it. I would like reverb in the chassis though if I can figure it out. I'm sure the topic has come up before. But I am not finding anything real clear or very useful on the forums. I would bet that someone has done it before me. So I'm here asking for help. I need pictures of a layout and a schematic. My brain works with pics and "PTP" wiring layout  better than anything else. If any one can help that would be great. If you have any questions I would be happy to answer them if I can. Thanx in advance!!!!
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: sluckey on November 04, 2017, 01:02:07 pm
Chassis looks full. Where would you mount the extra tube, components and transformer?
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: ceeya68 on November 04, 2017, 02:22:03 pm
There's enough room on the back of the chassis to mount a small reverb transformer say like on BF Fender. And I can put a tube socket slightly under the board. Along with a couple of RCA jacks. "I think I can squeeze them in". I think there is enough room for a one tube reverb type thing in that chassis. The board components will have to be modified to another board. I kinda planned on building a whole new amp to achieve this reverb goal thing anyway. Thanx!!
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: sluckey on November 04, 2017, 02:36:54 pm
Take a look in the "Archives of favorite topics" forum. Lot's of info about adding a one tube reverb.
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: DummyLoad on November 04, 2017, 02:45:46 pm
IMHO, use a pedal or 6g15 type reverb. the extra circuitry would have a high probability of adding instability in tight confines.


--pete
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: ceeya68 on November 04, 2017, 02:57:23 pm
IMHO, use a pedal or 6g15 type reverb. the extra circuitry would have a high probability of adding instability in tight confines.


--pete
Thanx for the advice. I could do that (yea). No prob. But that's not what I am after. It's not gonna be that tight. Thiers room.  All a man can do is give it a try and see what comes of it. Thanx! Though. Appreciate the chime in.
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: ceeya68 on November 04, 2017, 03:00:19 pm
Take a look in the "Archives of favorite topics" forum. Lot's of info about adding a one tube reverb.
I have been looking in their. I will have to spend some more time in their though, looking for info. I haven't seen anything real clear for my brain yet though. I was hoping for some new pics and layout diagram type thing. Anything you can offer would be much appreciated. Thanx!!!
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: tubenit on November 04, 2017, 07:56:56 pm
Most of the "one tube" reverb info in ARCHIVES is what I've placed in there.  And I've installed one tube reverb in quite a few amps.

Having said that ...................

After looking at your chassis photo and layout,  I personally would not attempt a one tube reverb in that chassis.  I would be more like to install a passive effects loop between the tone stack and the entrance to the LTPI & then use a delay or reverb pedal in the passive effects loop.

Just my 2 cents worth.     With respect, Tubenit
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: ceeya68 on November 10, 2017, 05:29:57 pm
Most of the "one tube" reverb info in ARCHIVES is what I've placed in there.  And I've installed one tube reverb in quite a few amps.

Having said that ...................

After looking at your chassis photo and layout,  I personally would not attempt a one tube reverb in that chassis.  I would be more like to install a passive effects loop between the tone stack and the entrance to the LTPI & then use a delay or reverb pedal in the passive effects loop.

Just my 2 cents worth.     With respect, Tubenit


Thanx!! Tubenit! Do you have any gut shot pictures of your one tube reverb circuit? I would like to see some in the amp pictures if you wouldn't mind to much. Thanx!!!
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: Tone Junkie on November 10, 2017, 07:16:04 pm
IMHO, use a pedal or 6g15 type reverb. the extra circuitry would have a high probability of adding instability in tight confines.

--pete

What Pete was trying to say was putting a one tube reverb with the tube under the board in on a high gain amp might create a howling squeeling mess you cant fix . in other words instability. I don't have any pictures but tried it once had to remove it couldn't get it to quit squeeling at anything past 3 on the volume. But give it a try, I understand.
 Sometimes for me that's how I learn the best.
With utmost respect.
Bill

{edit- untangled quote -- PRR}
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: ceeya68 on November 11, 2017, 05:43:16 am
Thanx, TJ ! I've decided to put an effects loop in the amp that I first posted about. And I have decided to go with a much larger chassis for the amp build that I am Prepping for now. There is a lot more room for a spring reverb type build. I will have to post a pic a bit later of the chassis I plan to use. Thanx again! 
Title: Re: How Do I?
Post by: tubenit on November 11, 2017, 07:07:44 am
One of these?  I've never used one but have read numerous positive reviews of them.

https://www.amazon.com/Metroamp-Zero-Loss-FX-Loop/dp/B01HFRR4XQ



With respect, Tubenit
Title: Re: How Do I?
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