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Title: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 21, 2018, 01:39:58 pm
Hi, I have here two Stromberg Carlson monoblock tube amplifiers: 5Y4 rectifier, 2X 6V6's and a 6SQ7 . They are very old and have beeen modified to a certain degree. The model number is not indicated though on one block is stamped the number ''41' with unreadable character before, like a T but I'm not totally sure, stamped inside the chassis. I just can't find the schematics. One strange thing is that the power tubes pins 1 and 2 are strapped together to gnd...while the 8 is alone with a cathode cap.  The power tranny is huge for 2 X 6V6's and has three center taps soldered to the chassis, I guess the third one is for the 5 V... Anyway, to make a long story short, I would need the schems first, I can't rely on what I see because of the mods performed before. Pics will follow.
Thanks for info if you have.

Colas
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: sluckey on February 21, 2018, 02:16:51 pm
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One strange thing is that the power tubes pins 1 and 2 are strapped together to gnd...
That was very common for an amp from that era. Pin 1 connects to the metal shell of the 6V6 and pin 2 in one side of the filament. The grounded metal shell acts as a shield around the tube and the grounded filament pin means you only have to run one filament wire to the tube.

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...while the 8 is alone with a cathode cap.
Tube cannot possibly work with only a cap connected to the cathode. Look closely. I bet you will find a wire, or a output transformer lead, or the remnants of a resistor on pin 8. Pin 8 must have a dc current path to ground in order to function.
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 21, 2018, 04:09:31 pm
I have found a schem. (though it's not the model I have here) with 6V6's heaters wired one side to gnd along with pin no 1. I don't understand why both sides of the heaters supply seem to be tied to gnd ( look at the PT ).

Colas
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: VMS on February 21, 2018, 04:21:33 pm
To me it looks like the other side has got an arrow and letter F
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: mresistor on February 21, 2018, 04:54:28 pm
Yes  F from the filament secondary is going to pin "H" on all the tube sockets.. H = heater I suppose.
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: jjasilli on February 21, 2018, 05:23:44 pm
This site has lots of Stromberg Carlson info.  Some of it requires an app called WinDJview to read it. 


http://audiophool.com/MadeInRoch.html
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: sluckey on February 21, 2018, 05:27:16 pm
I don't understand why both sides of the heaters supply seem to be tied to gnd ( look at the PT ).
I don't understand why you think they are both tied to gnd.
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 21, 2018, 06:19:35 pm
look at the pt, the heater supply shows an arrow connecting a white dot one one side to a white dot on the other side and to the ground what d'you think ?
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: sluckey on February 21, 2018, 07:00:16 pm
look at the pt, the heater supply shows an arrow connecting a white dot one one side to a white dot on the other side and to the ground what d'you think ?
I think I want some of whatever you're smoking!  :l2:
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: PRR on February 21, 2018, 07:08:42 pm
> heater supply shows an arrow connecting a white dot one one side to a white dot on the other side

Circle with a loop inside? That's a lamp. A two-6V6 radio *should* have four lamps so your friends know you paid a lot. (Two look dotted... maybe optional, depending if you got the fancy case or the extra-fancy case.)
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on February 21, 2018, 07:20:43 pm
it was giving me the impression that the first lamp was not a lamp but an arrow connecting the two sides of the filament supply to the gnd which was a nonsense sorry for this.



colas
Title: Re: Stromberg Carlson monoblock
Post by: PRR on February 22, 2018, 06:59:10 pm
It is a very ugly messy drawing with many confusing parts hidden in it.