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Title: Wire strippers
Post by: eternalpurple on July 30, 2018, 10:42:00 pm
Is the an automatic wire stripper out the that works well with 20 to 24 GA cloth wire? I would like to buy a one but before I do I want to hear from the people here that have found some that work well with this type of wire? Thanks.
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: davidwpack on July 31, 2018, 06:24:23 am
I've tried auto strippers and found they had a propensity to tear 22-24 g wires in half. I don't care for them.
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: EL34 on July 31, 2018, 06:45:41 am
The ones I have been using for years sense the wire gauge and strip cleanly
Blue Point - Snap On
Made in Germany

But, they do not do Teflon jacket wire all that cleanly

These say 12 to 20 gauge, but I added a small brass piece up top to do smaller gauges

Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: sluckey on July 31, 2018, 07:22:39 am
Is the an automatic wire stripper out the that works well with 20 to 24 GA cloth wire?
If I was gonna use cloth wire I'd use the "push-back" stuff that Hoffman sells. Just cut to length and push back insulation. No stripper required.

I've never found an automatic stripper to be useful or reliable for this type work. I use this Klein stripper. Works fine on every type wire I've used.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-6-1-4-in-Wire-Stripper-Cutter-for-16-26-AWG-Stranded-Wire-11046/100630720

Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: eternalpurple on July 31, 2018, 01:50:47 pm
Thanks for the reply's.......................................I actually have a pair of blue handled Klein's and they are fine but not automatic. I might try a pair of the one's that  EL34 is using if he would be so kind as to show me a picture of the brass plate he made for them. that is assuming I can duplicate it. Thanks once again..............I'll check back.
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: PRR on July 31, 2018, 04:07:04 pm
> use the "push-back" stuff that Hoffman sells

+1
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: sluckey on July 31, 2018, 04:17:56 pm
Everybody needs to buy one automatic wire stripper. Then you'll know if it is right for you. Please share your results.
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: eternalpurple on July 31, 2018, 05:01:02 pm
Everybody needs to buy one automatic wire stripper. Then you'll know if it is right for you. Please share your results.

 I shall do so sir. I actually have a bid on a pair right now and if I get them or any other I will let people know what I have found.
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: EL34 on July 31, 2018, 05:20:25 pm
I just added a piece of K&S brass, bent into a U shape
.032 inch thick x 1/4 inch wide
Hot glued in place
Hard to describe, but you can see the blob of hot glue along the top of the tool

Same brass you see in hobby stores and some cool hardware stores
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: Ed_Chambley on August 01, 2018, 11:15:16 am
There really is no such thing as an automatic stripper.  You have got to put money in the garter.  Don't be qawking unless youatre tipping. :icon_biggrin:


Pushback for cloth wire, +1.  I like the Kline strippers for PTFE, but some PTFE coating is thin and will shred and is single core wire sometimes get a nick in it and will break.


I purchased a used Teledyne Heat Stripper about 5 years ago.  Found it at a yard sale for 50¢.  I have not used anything else since for electronics.  It will not harm the wire.  Makes a clean cut on PTFE no matter how small and never cuts a single strand, but I would not use it in cloth since it burns.
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: EL34 on August 01, 2018, 11:26:31 am
The only thing automatic about the strippers I showed up above is that you do not have to pull the strippers
When you squeeze them, the jaws come down, cut through the jacket and pull the jacket back.

I am not a big fan of strippers where you have to push the tool a certain way after making the jacket cut
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: PRR on August 02, 2018, 01:32:29 pm
> no such thing as an automatic stripper.  You have got to put money in the garter.

Ecdysiast (https://www.sciplus.com/automatic-wire-stripper-1662-p), "AKA automatic stripper. Sorry folks, but this one strips insulation to reveal wire, not flesh. Which may still give you a charge, depending upon your hookup!!" $2.95

I have a couple of these from here. They are OK, not great, and not for teeny work. The same shop has other useful tools: $10 chainsaw, watchmaker set, roach-clips, IR thermo, peep light, bead reamer, Al tape, drinking birds, Silly Putty, Scientific Slime, Dyspeptic Putty, pens by the pound, Itsy Bitsy Blue Boxes, geodes, Whoopee Cushion......

This is a junk-shop, obviously; but they been around from before WWII and recently sold-out from a fan to the head buyer. I've ordered from them a couple times and the deals were smooth. The "vintage electrical" was as-described and a cheap disappointment. These $3 Ecdysiasts are new-made and priced right (they ain't Kleins, but they are useful).
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: pompeiisneaks on August 02, 2018, 02:32:58 pm
I use this guy for when I'm outside of an amp:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/IRWIN-Wire-Strippers/1000235597?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-ToolsAndHardware-_-PliersAndWrenches-_-1000235597:IRWIN&CAWELAID=&kpid=1000235597&CAGPSPN=pla&store_code=1030&k_clickID=43a13814-9e20-4ab4-8510-c83583c473ea&gclid=CjwKCAjw14rbBRB3EiwAKeoG_2nOeaaeTuxtZgCBB30VEm3sipYFmfGz25h95dJ4ynSHfaUyczTt9xoCvloQAvD_BwE

and love it, but it's just too big to fit inside and that's when the Klein ones like sluckey's come out.

~Phil
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: jjasilli on August 07, 2018, 11:44:49 am
Every time someone posts about strippers I think of Gypsy Rose Lee.


Years ago, at Doug's suggestion I bought a bargain wire stripper on ebay of the type he mentions in Reply 2.  I love it.


More recently at sluckeys suggestion I bought a more heavy duty Klein auto stripper.  Love that too but it's better for heavier gauge house wiring.


Auto strippers are great because they don't tug on the wire.  This is useful if the other end is a already installed in the amp.
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: PRR on July 26, 2019, 04:58:59 pm
> no such thing as an automatic stripper.  You have got to put money in the garter.
Ecdysiast (https://www.sciplus.com/automatic-wire-stripper-1662-p), "AKA automatic stripper. Sorry folks, but this one strips insulation to reveal wire, not flesh. Which may still give you a charge, depending upon your hookup!!" $2.95

So use the word in a sentence....

"They pushed through a milling crowd at the bar, rockhounds who watched one of Achilles’ three live ecdysiasts with hungry eyes,...."
OUT OF THE IRON WOMB!, by Poul Anderson, Originally published in Planet Stories, Summer 1955.
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BTW: : Mencken had coined "ecdysiast" in 1940, in response to a letter from another famous stripper, Georgia Sothern, who wrote to him with "the hope that the science of semantics can find time to help the verbally underprivileged members of my profession." "I sympathize with you in your affliction," replied Mencken. "It might be a good idea to relate strip-teasing in some way to the … zoological phenomenon of molting … which is ecdysis. This word produces … ecdysiast."
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/review/gypsy-and-the-ecdysiasts-2
Title: Re: Wire strippers
Post by: Ritchie200 on July 27, 2019, 01:30:14 am
Got this from my Pops.  Works great on everything including Teflon.  You can find them on fleabay.  I think they are maybe 50's vintage?

Jim