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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: p2pAmps on January 06, 2019, 09:09:36 am

Title: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: p2pAmps on January 06, 2019, 09:09:36 am
This is something I have been meaning to build for awhile now, a cool hifi amp.  Sure glad I did as it sounds amazing.  Sporting 4 KT120s, 5AR4, and 3 12AU7s...  Nice change of pace

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56fbe87462cd94ff6ec9d02c/5c1eff7303ce64637db73342/5c285499562fa795d87ba45d/1546146971937/IMG_2575.jpeg?format=2500w)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56fbe87462cd94ff6ec9d02c/5c1eff7303ce64637db73342/5c2854944fa51a03a88bb2ad/1546146967683/IMG_2565.jpeg?format=2500w)
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: jjasilli on January 06, 2019, 01:32:50 pm
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: tubenit on January 06, 2019, 01:51:22 pm
That's remarkably cool!  What a fantastic project!  THANKS for sharing your success with it.   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

With respect, Tubenit
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: DummyLoad on January 06, 2019, 02:30:54 pm
nice. but why is choke on the left side anchored with only one bolt/nut?


--pete
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: shooter on January 06, 2019, 02:33:56 pm
 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

amazing workmanship, and the octals for speakers, killer!

using DC filaments?  I see a bridge under but a tube rec above
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: p2pAmps on January 06, 2019, 09:02:30 pm
:thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

amazing workmanship, and the octals for speakers, killer!

using DC filaments?  I see a bridge under but a tube rec above

Hey Shooter, yeah, DC filaments for sure.  The small circuit board is a TDR for a slow start should I decide to use a SS rectifier (no bridge). These amps are very cool and give a McIntosh a serious run for the money
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: p2pAmps on January 06, 2019, 09:03:50 pm
nice. but why is choke on the left side anchored with only one bolt/nut?


--pete

I know huh LOL.  Thats the way the chassis was drilled and I didn't want another hole in the top so I let it sit the way it sits.  It's not causing a problem but does kinda rub me the wrong way too :)
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: p2pAmps on January 06, 2019, 09:05:22 pm
BTW, those two switches in the middle are triode/pentode switched, kinda cool.  I'm using it on the triode ultra linear mode which is more powerful and sounds good for the stuff I'm listening to. 
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: shooter on January 07, 2019, 05:16:58 am
so what's the amp using to drive the air
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: p2pAmps on January 07, 2019, 05:39:53 am
so what's the amp using to drive the air

The rest is a McIntosh MX130 pre, Marantz 6300 turntable, and a set of JBL 120ti speakers.  Next I will build a tube pre and a DAC...
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: Ed_Chambley on January 07, 2019, 08:00:55 am
Big time soup up of a Dyanco.  Tube pre.  I go back and fourth.  I have a very nice Marantz type tube pre I have built.  I have too much junk anyway.  This looks great.  Where did you source the chassis?
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: DummyLoad on January 07, 2019, 08:57:42 am
don't know if his is from the same source, but you can get one here (http://triodeelectronics.com/st70chassisnew.html) ed.


--pete




Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: Ritchie200 on January 07, 2019, 10:08:24 am
That is too cool and affordable considering some of the extreem cork sniffer kits and finished products out there.


I hope this isn’t too much of a hijack...  I went on their website and noticed an auto-bias circuit. How does this work?


Jim
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: jjasilli on January 07, 2019, 10:19:49 am

@Jim:  https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/quot-fixed-quot-bias-versus-quot-auto-biasing-quot


Another dynaco-type kit source:  http://www.tubes4hifi.com/bob.htm

Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: mresistor on January 07, 2019, 11:20:43 am
That's a really nice amp..  did you get the driver cover for it too?
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: Ritchie200 on January 07, 2019, 12:28:12 pm

@Jim:  https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/quot-fixed-quot-bias-versus-quot-auto-biasing-quot (https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/quot-fixed-quot-bias-versus-quot-auto-biasing-quot)


Another dynaco-type kit source:  http://www.tubes4hifi.com/bob.htm (http://www.tubes4hifi.com/bob.htm)



JJ thanks for that. And that is the site for P2P’s amp. I was just wondering how the auto bias works. It sounds like automatic antenna matching for my Ham radio with servos. I was just wondering how the comparative circuit works?  As someone who does “atmospheric biasing”, I don’t know if I could trust that!!!


Jim
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: p2pAmps on January 07, 2019, 12:47:21 pm
http://www.tubes4hifi.com/bob.htm#ST120
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: p2pAmps on January 07, 2019, 12:48:31 pm
That's a really nice amp..  did you get the driver cover for it too?

Nah, I kinda like staring at those KT120s!   :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: jjasilli on January 07, 2019, 01:00:19 pm
Jim, I'm not sure the guy's right.  Some hi-fi purists opt for a voltage regulated bias supply.  That keeps the bias voltage constant regardless of B+ sag.  This would result in cold bias under strong signal conditions.  So they might also regulate the B+ supply.  This results in a lot of statistical performance claims, but I don't know if there's a real tonal difference.


Some hi-fi purists don't like B+ or bias voltage moving around on principal.  I think they claim it will modulate output power causing a tremolo affect which is not true to the original signal.  Maybe they're technically right???


FWIW I think McIntosh used a more passive feedback circuit to eliminate the need for bias adjustment.
Title: Re: Not a Guitar Amp
Post by: DummyLoad on January 07, 2019, 01:47:12 pm






(http://www.tubes4hifi.com/M-125-2run.jpg)

wondering if bob's amp melted down. the one monoblock on the right is not happy in the pic.


--pete