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Another bear incident at my house.
The bear returned about 7 am.
I heard the dogs barking and I went outside to see what was going on.
The bear was running and one dog was running after it and gaining on it fast.
The dog caught the bear and bit it on the butt.
The bear ran another 100 ft, stopped and looked back.
I yelled the the bear to make it leave.
It looked at me and did not seem too concerned and then walked off.
It's not a very big bear.
Maybe a yearling.
But it is bigger than the dog that bit it on the ass :)
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Sounds like you have a good bear population!
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Man, you have a gutsy dog! That's remarkable!
Jeff
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I was in Alberta Canada last week (Banff to Jasper area). One of the places I was at, a park guy said there were 300 black bears and 100 grizzlies in that area of the park. (this was the Canadian Rockies)
Prior to the trip, I read that there have been years where there have been 12-20 reported bear maulings in this "tourist" area.
At one point in 2014, it was illegal to hike in groups of less then 4 and without bear spray in one of the areas.
When we were there last week, there were a handful areas closed because of bear problems and elk attacks (calving this time of year). So, it's a real concern. The park guy thought the black bears were more problematic then the grizzlies. Perhaps the shear number was what he was referring to?
Jeff
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You've found one of the most beautiful places I've ever visited! That whole region. When we drove through there were so many bears n moose n eagles everywhere. Humans were definitely NOT the apex creature there, more like pray :icon_biggrin:
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A recent bear advisory in NY: http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/117390.html
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Doug, I would have been terrified that the bear would turn on my dog. I'm glad that didn't happen to you.
EDIT: Your dog looks pretty fast, but that's offset by the known fact that it chases bears!
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EDIT: Your dog looks pretty fast, but that's offset by the known fact that it chases bears!
DOG IS DOG!
My wife, from the Philippines has a saying: "Dog is Dog". When she first got here we went straight from the Portland International Airport, at night, 35 miles outside of Portland and lived in a cabin, off grid. She later told me she was bewildered cause she'd always heard they had these nice big cites in America, but since she didn't get into town until after the first month here, all she saw was the PNW foot hills of the Cascades.
I was at work and a black bear came around getting into the trash. As I recall, first she tried yelling at it from the window. When that didn't work, she let out my Chihuahua, which took off after the bear and chased it away. From my experiences where we now live, I've concluded black bears don't stick around when a dog starts barking due to the fact, it won't be long and another dog or 4 will show up to join the chase.
The above rule is not hard fast as I've mentioned before walking extremely close to a bear that just wasn't going to leave- at first anyway.
silverfox.
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it won't be long and another dog or 4
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I was looking for a campground in NC, the trail head for Mt Mitchell, I seen like 12 guys all drinking beer at 7AM in a gravel pull-out, stopped n asked , got direction, then since I'm a northerner I had to ask,... "oh Son, we're bear hunt'n", they seen the confusion, laughed n said "we let the dogs out about 1/2hr ago, should hear 'em in a few minutes when it's tree'd, then one of us goes n shoots it" :think1:
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St David Maine is 10 miles below Canada, 260 miles north of me.
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Pam just showed me that one a couple days ago! like it
My favorite is one of the Star Wars fighter just blowin the sheet outta them with the caption "F#^K your family"! The world needs more cynics :icon_biggrin:
backyard observations that could account for increase bears;
My barn Hive is now back to pre mite/misc devastation from the past 10yrs
Ground squirrels (Chipmunks) increased by 5X normal
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Hey, there's no dogs on that Menu!
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Hey, there's no dogs on that Menu!
I'm learning from this thread that they don't eat dogs. Still don't know why, but if I see a bear I plan to act stupid and bark annoyingly. Probbly be safest that way.
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> Hey, there's no dogs on that Menu!
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I was in Alberta Canada last week (Banff to Jasper area). One of the places I was at, a park guy said there were 300 black bears and 100 grizzlies in that area of the park. (this was the Canadian Rockies)
Prior to the trip, I read that there have been years where there have been 12-20 reported bear maulings in this "tourist" area.
At one point in 2014, it was illegal to hike in groups of less then 4 and without bear spray in one of the areas.
When we were there last week, there were a handful areas closed because of bear problems and elk attacks (calving this time of year). So, it's a real concern. The park guy thought the black bears were more problematic then the grizzlies. Perhaps the shear number was what he was referring to?
Jeff
Absolutely amazing! What a wonderful trip.
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Seems the Bears are active when the campgrounds fill up. I understand, you are just strolling around and you get, well, hungry as a Bear. You see these nice folks with their dogs, so you stop to ask "what's for dinner" except you get on the butt.
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You see these nice folks
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it's the human species, try it sometime, pick a random neighborhood and walk up n ask what's for supper? you get sprayed in the face with bear repellent :icon_biggrin:
maybe humans are to cynical :icon_biggrin:
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You see these nice folks
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it's the human species, try it sometime, pick a random neighborhood and walk up n ask what's for supper? you get sprayed in the face with bear repellent :icon_biggrin:
maybe humans are to cynical :icon_biggrin:
Are we still talking about bears or did we switch to the street people? "random neighborhood"? Got CC?
cynicfox.
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bear repellent :icon_biggrin:
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bear repellent :icon_biggrin:
The gun method might work.
fox.
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Actually, due to game laws, firearms are a troublesome alternative. Except as follows, it's illegal to shoot bears; or even to shoot in their vicinity (warning shots) which is illegal harassment of wildlife, unless: i) you have a valid hunting license/permit during bear hunting season; or ii) you are under actual attack. In the latter case being scared is not enough. You need to be able to prove an actual attack. Scars would be good evidence. Otherwise you may be found to have committed a serious offense which can result in a criminal conviction; fine; imprisonment; permanent confiscation of your firearm and possibly automobile; loss of hunting privileges, etc.
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I can see the witness list for the defense, Billy Bear :icon_biggrin:
I believe SF was referring to pesky humans, there it's way easier to use a gun :icon_biggrin:
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I believe SF was referring to pesky humans, there it's way easier to use a gun :icon_biggrin:
Actually I was referring to U238. Early Fat Man.- Sabot; NaOH; 3 ft. and a sub critical mass.
silverfox.
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referring to U238
from "Got CC"?
Granted, I was confused, so I googled;
Webster said it referred to carbon copy of days gone by, to copy someone in email
so I went with the street people angle :icon_biggrin:
which, from my rudimentary understanding of law, if I feel threatened with severe bodily harm, I CAN fire. It's all mute anyway, Doug lives in a world like mine, if the friggen bear won't leave, pretty sure 90% of my neighbors, self included, would fire off a warning, and nobody in a 3mile radius would take notice, talk about it at the bear, bait, n gas, yup :icon_biggrin:
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This video shows a pretty gutsy dog aggressively attacking a bear. :icon_biggrin:
Jeff
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if I feel threatened with severe bodily harm, I CAN fire.
I gave worst case legal scenarios above, of which it's good to be aware. YMMV.
Note that State laws vary a lot. In my state of NY, if you feel threatened, you have a duty to flee if you can do so safely; you must even flee your own home. Some states have the Castle Doctrine: you can legally use deadly force against an intruder in your home; i.e., no requirement to flee your home. Some states have the Stand Your Ground Doctrine: no need to flee anywhere. None of this applies to wildlife.
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MI has stand your ground, you are correct though about critters, If threatened it's less legal hoops to shoot humans than animals, It's still gonna bankrupt you either way :think1:
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When my daughter was playing basketball in Alaska, her coach would have them run trails and climb hills (mountains according to my daughter...) in the woods to break up the monotony. Coach carried a S&W .500 magnum on her hip. She used it once to scare off a momma grizz and some cubs. I've seen a few "Alaska Adventure"-type shows on cable where they fired off warning shots so maybe not as stringent in the great white north?
Jim
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JJ,
Wildlife laws are crazy strict. In my state possession of an eagle or hawk feather will send you to jail unless you are a licensed falconer or of American Indian heritage (and can prove your need for it). So that cool Harry Potter quill pen you made for your daughter out of that big feather she found might have some serious bad magic attached to it... Can't even pick them up. Which is a shame as eagle and hawk rescue centers and falconers can use these feathers to repair damaged and broken feathers - yet another use for super glue.
Jim
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possession of an eagle or hawk
MI is the same :think1:
I was with a gallery and one of the artists wanted the painting(2' X 4') below BAD!
We finally came to terms, he traded me a native "peace_pipe" he designed and made. Beautiful piece (can't show pic, see quote :icon_biggrin:) All locally found items deer antler, hide, soapstone bowl, walnut shaft, feathers. I can document my ancestor married a Cherokee, Mary Morningstar in 1837, but I don't wanna do the law stuff just to keep my work of art :cussing:
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This appeared in a social media site. I have no idea of the context or back-story.
video of bear and dog (https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C5105AQGvCTGE2TUqtA/4727477c8868424d9dca7a4149e7fc5f/feedshare-mp4_3300-captions-thumbnails/1507940147251-drlcss?e=1571846400&v=beta&t=30DJBgc-O_TVOF6KL-1Imb26ZSmFb8WSmuslCE4WFXE)
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This appeared in a social media site. I have no idea of the context or back-story.
video of bear and dog (https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C5105AQGvCTGE2TUqtA/4727477c8868424d9dca7a4149e7fc5f/feedshare-mp4_3300-captions-thumbnails/1507940147251-drlcss?e=1571846400&v=beta&t=30DJBgc-O_TVOF6KL-1Imb26ZSmFb8WSmuslCE4WFXE)
That looks like some sort of pet brown bear
I thought they only had black bears in MI?
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> in MI?
The video is re-re-re-posted from a guy in India. Where he got it, I have no idea. Could be Michigan or Maine or upper California or Germany or who-knows?
Yes, I would hope the bear is some sort of "pet". Else the dog and the person with the camera should not be this close. I think the bear is "playing like a dog" (I'm sure you recognize the pouncing), but this dog doesn't feel like playing.
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thought they only had black bears in MI?
You are correct, they can have brownish fur, can even get BIG.
But in the YP "pets" oddities n down right makes NO sense is quite normal, there are folks that might make Appalachian hill folk think twice :icon_biggrin:
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glock 40 & 2 clips. :icon_biggrin:
--pete
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HA
that's what the 5yr olds carry to kindergarden :icon_biggrin:
Dad's in the tree's with a bolt action just to make sure :laugh:
just stick to the lake coast n you'll be ok :think1:
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Humans were definitely NOT the apex creature there, more like pray :icon_biggrin:
'Prey' is what you ARE when the bear finds you.
'Pray' is what you DO when the bear finds you. :icon_biggrin:
(Sorry for the grammar police thing...)
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Over on the island, where bears are rare, a young bear tore up a trash fence, then saw a game-camera, and chewed on it a while. Great images of the inside of a bear's mouth.
https://bangordailynews.com/2020/05/20/news/hancock/what-it-looks-like-to-be-chewed-on-by-a-bear-caught-on-video/
Also in May, an adult black bear killed eight goats and destroyed three beehives at homes near the Chesterville Wildlife Management Area in Franklin County, Maine.
https://bangordailynews.com/2020/05/12/news/lewiston-auburn/goats-beehives-mauled-by-rampaging-bear-in-franklin-county/
{Yes, these local newspaper sites can be hard to see outside the area, between paywalls and limited content distribution contracts.}
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I'll join those raving about the Canadian Rockies and also Glacier NP in the US. My wife and I went there two years ago in June. Spent time hiking in Jasper and Yoho in Canada and then came down to Glacier and stayed in Many Glacier Lodge in GNP for an additional week of hiking. It was amazing! And staying at Many Glacier Lodge was a treat after years of camping. Rooms are spartan but the central lounge and deck are the places to hang. People were being kind of stupid with the Grizzlies, but often when they thought they saw a Griz, it was really a Black Bear that had brown fur - pretty common I guess.
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We used to go walleye fishing every year at Lac Seul in western Ontario. Usually, one night during the week we would drive to the Ear Falls dump, because you were guaranteed to find bears there. I was amazed at the people that would get out of their cars to take pictures of the bears, sometimes from 8-10 feet away. The lodge owner said he occasionally had to deal with a bear if they persisted in visiting the camp. He said the bears could pop the siding off the cabins with their claws and get inside looking for food. He would never show us where he dumped the fish gut buckets...
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had to trap out a mom n 2 kids, miniature bears :icon_biggrin:
the raccoons were free-loading on cat food and biting paws! now their in a big forest with no humans. Dad bear is more illusive and bigger than my trap :think1:
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"With a black bear high atop a tree.., police can only wait for it to come down"
Near a school and residential neighborhood.
https://bangordailynews.com/2020/06/24/news/hancock/with-a-black-bear-high-atop-a-tree-in-ellsworth-police-can-only-wait-for-it-to-come-down/
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I have a bear running through my property a couple times a week lately
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They got our tree-bear. Healthy 300 pound male. Will be relocated.
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Maybe they'll take him to New Hampshire. We'll watch it on North Woods Law next year. :icon_biggrin:
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nice
We'll watch it on North Woods Law
not sure if the TV police let you watch anything law :icon_biggrin:
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Big bear at my house this morning
Dogs were outside barking like crazy
I went out to see what was going on
Big bear about 100 feet away just staring us down
He was probably at least 300 pounds and not afraid of me of my dogs
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probably a stray from buddy bears still :icon_biggrin:
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Big bear at my house this morning
Dogs were outside barking like crazy
I went out to see what was going on
Big bear about 100 feet away just staring us down
He was probably at least 300 pounds and not afraid of me of my dogs
Seems like the bears are getting brazen in your area. Probably looking for food/garbage. Are you aware of things to do/not do to so as not to attract bears?
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Seems like the bears are getting brazen in your area. Probably looking for food/garbage. Are you aware of things to do/not do to so as not to attract bears?
Bears were here way before people were :)
This is their stomping ground
There's nothing on my property that would attract them
They just cruise through on a big loop looking for food
There's a million acres of national forest out my back door
I get emails about bear activity in my area all the time
If people have bird feeders, the bears will tear them down, so that's probably what they are looking for
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Bears were here way before people were :)
:thumbsup:
I find it easy to like live with nature, other humans, not as much :laugh:
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Not a bear; bigger:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1299876368105308160
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that was the oddest Clydesdale I ever seen :icon_biggrin:
I found myself ~ 15' behind and 10' above his cuZ, as I came over a knoll!! His head turned, I could see he had a pretty bad tear on the left hind. I moved REAL slow back, he snorted and moved on, limp wasn't to bad.
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> Bears were here way before people were :)
Moose too. They're big.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1399023060171202564
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Yah, those moose are way bigger than you think. Never forget a hike on Isle Royale years ago -- minding our own business making our way down the trail when we came upon a large -- and I mean huge -- moose standing in the middle of the trail. When he started grunting and moving towards us a recognizable smell was emitted from our small group, and we high tailed it out of there.
And I've met up with them since on hikes. They don't scare easy, and they are big.
God help you if you hit one with your car on the road.
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a hike on Isle Royale years ago
when I was in Scouts, me and Lee got up early, 430AM, went down to the lake on the Island to fish. We're waist deep when the sound of an Abrams tank crashing though the woods, it's dark, we both shine our lights and see this giant beast heading our way fast. We froze, the moose splashed into the water, dunked it's head under and came up with a mouth-full of weeds and calmly started munching away. we didn't catch any fish!
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Did you pollute the water? :icon_biggrin:
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On a smaller scale: someone around here (besides me) has squirrels. Here's a nest (drey) in a windowsill.
https://twitter.com/FeelGoodPage11/status/1398601995833905157/photo/1
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:laugh: The wife said the other day "we have a squirrels in the attic". I went attic hunting, found enough walnuts and insulation to fill 2 5 gallon buckets!! Found one hole n plugged, last night as I was dozing off I heard the unmistakable sound of squirrel teeth on walnuts! Gonna have to set outside with the semi automatic....some day. got 2 raccoons that eat the cat food. Maybe it's time to call the critter control guy down the road and pay him to relocate, I'm holding out for EliMay to show up for now :icon_biggrin:
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> set outside with the semi automatic....
Or watch to see where other holes are, wait to the end of puppy-season, nail a one-way flap over the hole(s). (Your pest guy may even have these.)
Squirrel Removal Using One Way Doors - Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rckogAu066c)
https://www.instructables.com/1-Way-Door-for-Pests/
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1399773327225405443
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/17-year-old-san-gabriel-valley-girl-shoves-away-bear-to-save-her-dogs/
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Out here in West Colorado when a bear comes into town to some neighborhoods, they usually get full on food from trash cans and then siesta in a tree at which point the game and fish is alerted and they come and shoot it with tranquilizer darts and take it back to the wild or euthanize it, their choice, I guess based on many factors. Happens every year, and this is a small city with a rural feel.
In Idaho a couple decades ago a friend and I were up near Alturas Lake and were heading out for a day of gold panning, going up a forest road we passed a tent and as we were passing the side of the tent ripped open. It was a bear that had gotten into the tent to get to the cooler of food and beer. He had a six pack in his paw and was about to enjoy gettin smashed.
Out here when in the forest or BLM campgrounds and bears show up they come and shoot them with bean bags to drive them off.
One thing I noticed a long time ago is some bears stink to high heaven.
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He had a six pack in his paw
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I'm drawing a blank on the song that had a bear and a still...."a Kodiak lookin fella...about 12 ft tall"......
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The only bear song I know...
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good song, but; you made me hunt'r down
gods own drunk song jimmie buffet at DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gods+own+drunk+song+jimmie+buffet&t=h_&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfDIrJkNE4Jk)
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> you made me hunt'r down
Ah, Lord Buckley.
God's Own Drunk
I’d like to do a little creative wig bubble for you called “God’s Own Drunk”
Said, just like I say before, I'm a non-drinkin' man. Never drank for some reason or other - didn't like it. But like I said, too, I promised to take care of my brother-in law's still while he went in to vote.
Went up there and it was just where the map said it was. And I'm a gonna tell ya somethin', there was no li'l old five or ten cent still. It was laid there just like a golden mountain opal. With a kind of a honey dew cry a comin' from it.
I aren't a drinkin' man like I explained to you but that big old yellow moon was a hangin' out there, and God's lanterns was a hangin' in the sky and that curiosity got the best of me. And I took a slash. And I got a crazy revolutionary feelin' in my body. That yellow whiskey went down my throat like honeydew vine water. Huuuuh!!! It tasted mighty good! I felt a revolution goin' through my body like there was a great neon sign's a goin' up and sayin' "There's a great life a comin'!"
I could feel it talkin' to me and I took another slash and I got another jolt and I took another slash and I started to sing. I started to sing and that big ol' yellow moon a hangin' out there and God's sweet lanterns are hangin' in the sky. And I’s a singin'. Never could sing a note before in my life but I was singin' as fine and as pretty as you'd ever wanna hear.
And I took another slash. And then I took a big, full - that big ol' yellow moon a hangin' out there, God's lanterns hangin' in the sky, and suddenly I got a tremendous revolution of emotion in my body, like I was fallin' in love with everything in God's sweet world that moved. Lived, didn't live, animate, inanimate, black, blue, green, pink, mountains, fountains. I was in love with life. 'Cause I was DRUNK!
I wasn't fallin' down slippin 'n' slidin' drunk, I was God's own drunk - a fearless man.
And that's when I first saw the bear. Big ol' Kodiak lookin' fellah about 16 foot tall. I walked right on up to that bear 'cause I was God's own drunk and I loved everything in this world, walked right up tight to 'im about four and a half feet and I looked right up in his eyes and I wanna tell you somethin' brothers and sisters, my eyes was redder 'n his was - hung 'im up.
And he's a sniffin', he's a sniffin', he's trying to smell some fear - he can't do it cause I'm God's own drunk, and I'm a fearless man. He expects me to do two things - flip or fly - I don't do either, hangs 'im up.
I told him, I said,
"Mr. Bear, I'm God's own drunk and I love every hair on your twenty seven acre body. I'm a fearless man."
I said, "I want you to go - I know you got bear friends over the hill there, Harry Bear and Tim Bear and Jelly Bear and Tony Bear and Teddy Bear, Phil Bear, Hazel Bear, John Bear, Pete Bear and Rare Bear. Go over and tell all of 'em that I'm God's own drunk tonight, and I love everything in God's green creation, and I love them like brothers. But if they give me any trouble. I'm gonna run every GOD DAMN one of 'em off the hill!"
I moved up, don't you know he moved back two feet. I reached up and took the bear by the hand. I said ,
"Mr. Bear, we're both beasts when it comes right down to it."
He's a lookin' down at me. I said,
"I want you to come with me. You're gonna be my buddy, buddy bear."
Took him right by his big ol' shaggy island size hand and led him on over, sat him down by the still.
Well, he's sniffin', he's sniffin, he's knows there's honey dew around there, some kind of honey bear honey dew of some kind, he's a sniffin'. I know what he's a sniffin' at. I took a slash or two myself to taste her out and I filled him a bottle. Did ya ever see them bears, the silhouette a them bears at the circus suckin' up that sarsaparilla Aaaaah it was a fine lookin' sight.
And he downed another bottle and he downed another bottle and I put two more on 'im and pretty soon he started sniffin' and snortin', tapped his foot. He got up and started to do the Bear Dance - two sniffs, three snorts, a half a turn and one grunt. And I'm tryin' to do it, but I couldn't do it 'cause it was just like a jitterbug dance - it was so simple it evaded me.
But we was a dancin' and yellin', and God's sweet moon hangin' in the sky and God's sweet lanterns out there and there's jubilation and love on that hill and finally it piled up and up and up and got so strong it overwhelmed my soul. And I laid back on that sweet green hill with that big ol' buddy bear paw right in mine and I went to sleep.
And I slept for four hours and dreamt me some tremulous dreams. And when I woke up, that ol' yellow moon was a hangin' in the sky, and God's sweet lanterns was out there, and my buddy the bear was a missin'. And you want to know somethin' else brothers and sisters? So was the still.
from "Wayout Humor"
transcribed by Michael Monteleone
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He had a six pack in his paw
Big ol' Kodiak lookin' fellah about 16 foot tall.
:think1: and that's how my brain trips open the magic doors :icon_biggrin:
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Please be advised: When the bear is shot, and knows it is the end of life. it will attach the dog To revenge. This is from, FoxFire book on: Hunting Bears.
If the bear swipes the dog, it will send it flying 15 feet. Not good for the dog. I've seen the dog contend with the bear in the dead of night- And I have a really good bear dog. It keeps the distance and harassers the bear. Until. . . well, you know.
I was very impressed when the most recent bear came through our property. Very quiet in movement. Nice cape. A very smart bear. Driven from it's place by logging and fires. So far. . . Seems to have moved on.
Buck, my bear dog, is really cool. Smart. I tell him all the time- "Don't fight the Bear". Something we all should consider. Don't fight the bear. Whatever form it takes.
silverfox.
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> you made me hunt'r down
Ah, Lord Buckley.
God's Own Drunk
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Check this out
This girl pushes a bear off a wall to save her dogs
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Edit: How to deal with the bear.
I never said don't kill the bear.
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when water runs low, all species seem to congregate around the water cooler :icon_biggrin:
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> How to deal with the bear.
We been doing it for 35,000 years.
(https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/cave-bear-skull-1280x621.png)
Someone stabbed a cave bear in the head with a spear 35,000 years ago (https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/06/someone-stabbed-a-cave-bear-in-the-head-with-a-spear-35000-years-ago/)
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If you've ever been to Alaska you know that moose roam freely pretty much everywhere.. well I was driving from Ft Richardson to Elmandorf AFB one morning and a very large male moose was crossing the road, and the cars had to stop - I was at the head of the line and in a 63 VW bug, the moose stood right in front of my car and peed all over the place, then continued accross the road. I had to lean forward to look up at his head he was so large.. completely in awe.
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I took the family there on the 90's The Moose reminded me of the Imperial walkers from star wars!
we were on a paved path, walked around a blind corner and there was a Bull, 20 ft away, back to me. when He looked back, I went back. backwards, wasn't gonna take my eyes off that giant !!!
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Japan has bears. I did not know.
Rampaging bear in Japan injures 4
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bear-japan-injures-4-disrupts-flights-shot-dead/
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20210618/k10013090921000.html (top video)
Japanese town deploys growling "Monster Wolf" robots to scare away wild bears
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/japan-hokkaido-monster-wolf-robots-scare-away-wild-bears/
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Bears seem so random in my experience. My family has had a camp in if far eastern Maine for 40 years and we've never seen a bear even though the area is supposed to be highly populated with 'em per the Me. IF&W guys. And we take no precautions either. This week my wife and I are staying in a VRBO cabin on the side of a mountain in the Mad River Valley in VT and the owners told us they have been having to keep everything locked down and the compost machine was raided just a few days ago and warned us to be careful. Almost like the night we spent in Yosemite a couple decades ago where it was "keep nothing in your tent, not even toothpaste, and the same goes for your vehicle, use the strongboxes, or whatever happens to your stuff is on you." Try to get a good nights sleep after that warning.
And moose?? I'm in the automobile collision repair business. Seen more than one car totaled by run in with a "swamp donkey" as they are sometimes referred to. If you're lucky it mashes the front end and hood and stops there. If you're not it folds the roof down on top of you too, or as happened once last summer, it's noggin comes through the windshield and drools in your lap as it expires.
Nature and Man will always be in conflict, as pointed out by Blue Oyster Cult, history shows again and again
How nature points up the folly of man.
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...we've never seen a bear...
9 years ago the crazy lady who lives behind the IGA told us she was friends with the local bear.
Our Great Pyrenees was bred to deter wolves and bears. She's always challenging something in the woods. Sometimes an owl. Sometimes a butterfly. (Once a porcupine....)
More direct evidence was bear-poop on the woods road beside our lot. Big, not herbivore, not dog/fox/coyote.
We've seen a fox, long ago. Coyotes howl all around most nights most years but never seem near.
The real danger is black-flies, mosquitoes, and deer-flies. And this year, ticks. My arm is all scabs from feeding the insects.
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The real danger is black-flies, mosquitoes, and deer-flies. And this year, ticks.
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I'm down a pint of blood so far!!!