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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: Cobbler on November 11, 2019, 01:29:14 am

Title: Best components
Post by: Cobbler on November 11, 2019, 01:29:14 am
If you were to use only the best of the best components for a build (money is no object) what parts would you use?

Transformers?
Tube sockets?
Filter caps?
Other caps?
Resistors?
Pots?
Jacks?
Wire?

I’ve built quite a few amps; Princeton Reverb and a 5E3 from parts from Doug, a Spitfire and a Champ from mostly organ donor components, a Carmen Ghia and an 18w Marshall from parts scrounged from various vendors plus a couple of my own “cobbled” circuits. Now I want to build one with nothing but the best parts. What would you use?
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: kagliostro on November 11, 2019, 05:36:51 am
Transformers = Mercury Magnetics (don't know if they are the best, for sure they are expensive)

Tube sockets = Belton (of course there are also Teflon Sockets)

Filter caps = Solen MKP Polipropilene

Other caps = Orange Drop 715p

Resistors = Dale CMF60 MIL-SPEC 1/2W Resistors, 1% - other power, Metal Film

Pots = CTS

Jacks = Switchcraft or Amphenol

Wire = shielded RG316 - other ...

This are only suggestions, there are other good products to be used

Franco
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: shooter on November 11, 2019, 06:18:50 am
like asking boxers or briefs

quality verses shoddy might be better and sadly quality is hard to find

I use Edcor iron, UL tap 40% for OT, Hammond also, both quality
same for PT
have yet to have a Nichicon cap or F&T fail, I use some "audio caps" but believe it's wasting money on an OD/distortion amp, pure clean, maybe

mil spec like K mentioned used to be "a standard" expect it still is
37/63 rosin core solder
time, probably the best predictor of quality build even when components are unknown
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: PRR on November 11, 2019, 04:07:44 pm
Why would you want "best"?

Many much-loved guitar amps were built of the 2nd-cheapest parts they could find. (Only way to stay in business.)

And like choosing a lover, "best" is different for everybody.
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: glass54 on November 11, 2019, 05:03:38 pm
...and don't forget Doug's Metal Oxide 3Watt, 5% tolerance Resistors for Screen grids (esp Fender circuits), Plate load and Power Supply resistors.
I also prefer to use 2W Metal oxide resistors for all my Preamp Plate loads and PI (they are compact enough) and help with reliability.
Kind regards
Mirek
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: Cobbler on November 11, 2019, 05:53:00 pm
Why would you want "best"?

Many much-loved guitar amps were built of the 2nd-cheapest parts they could find. (Only way to stay in business.)

And like choosing a lover, "best" is different for everybody.

I guess I’m trying to make a “cork sniffer” approved model  :laugh:

I will readily admit that I cannot hear the difference between most parts but certain components carry with them a reputation of possessing MOJO... I suppose that is what I’m looking for... a gut shot that the cork sniffers would approve of.
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: shooter on November 11, 2019, 06:18:04 pm
When I did janitorial work, advice from the pro's; "If it smells good, it's already clean"  :icon_biggrin:

I use this image, but there are many builders here with similar, the parts appear normal-use what should get the mojo credit, builds that look and sound great.  If they require caviar parts, I'd get premium money up front  :laugh:
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: sluckey on November 11, 2019, 06:30:44 pm
If you were to use only the best of the best components for a build (money is no object) what parts would you use?
You should visit the amp garage with this question.
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: pompeiisneaks on November 11, 2019, 11:12:26 pm
If you were to use only the best of the best components for a build (money is no object) what parts would you use?
You should visit the amp garage with this question.

And you'll get likely 50 answers all different :D

~Phil
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: kagliostro on November 12, 2019, 12:20:44 am
Mojo ....

if you are looking for Mojo the construction way may be your path

Franco
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: Leevi on November 12, 2019, 01:35:32 am
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Mojo ....if you are looking for Mojo the construction way may be your path
At least this can be called "point to point" amp;)


/Leevi

Title: Re: Best components
Post by: Willabe on November 12, 2019, 08:00:51 am
You should visit the amp garage with this question.

And you'll get likely 50 answers all different :D

    :laugh:
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: jjasilli on November 12, 2019, 08:01:00 am
Best also depends on type of amp.  E.g., a fender build might call for different premium trannies and caps than a Marshall build.
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: 1blueheron on November 12, 2019, 07:57:22 pm
For starters, you must not refer to anything as "tube" or "tubes".  From here forward use the term "valves".  Then add to that "custom", "vintage", "proprietary" and "Limited"  with a generous helping of rare metals.  For instance, try "Audio Note 9 pin gold plated ceramic valve bases" at the bargain price of 16.00 ea.  That has got to make it better right?  Or maybe ConneX Superior Beryllium ceramic gold plated valve bases...  you get the idea.   Shielded, epoxy potted transformers?  Kimber silver plated oxygen free copper hookup wire...?  How about hand selected precision wire wound resistors...

Ladder stepped potentiometers....?

Read some marketing literature...

Most of the gray hairs that aren't selling a product will say seldom is the sum $ of the parts = to the quality of the sound...?

Title: Re: Best components
Post by: jjasilli on November 12, 2019, 11:52:38 pm
Ouch! I submit that cobbler posts a fair question.  Doug sells premium signal caps, e.g.   
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: John on November 13, 2019, 08:36:35 pm
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Kimber silver plated oxygen free copper hookup wire...



I built a vacuum pump to suck all the oxygen out of the wire.
Title: Re: Best components
Post by: 1blueheron on November 13, 2019, 08:54:50 pm
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Kimber silver plated oxygen free copper hookup wire...



I built a vacuum pump to suck all the oxygen out of the wire.


Be careful with that oxygen free copper and vacuum pump.   It has been known to suck all the oxygen away from the brain!  :l2:

I agree the question is legit, however, from my days spent on the Hi-Fi side, I can say with some confidence there is a point of diminishing return with buying the "best".  Some of it defies science and defiles the wallet.