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Title: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: Backwoods Joe on December 12, 2019, 05:45:33 pm
Sorry I can't remember the name of the schematic, but someone on this board has a schem for a 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching that is tried & true. THX,  joe
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: sluckey on December 12, 2019, 06:23:57 pm
Are you maybe referring to my Marshall Dual 50? Look in Hoffman's schematic library.
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: Backwoods Joe on December 13, 2019, 08:27:01 pm
Sluckey the schematic i'm thinking about has a master vol for each channel
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: sluckey on December 13, 2019, 08:38:22 pm
I seem to remember that. I think each channel also had it's own tone stack? I don't recall the particular thread though. But if it was on this forum you should be able to find it using the search button.
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: Backwoods Joe on December 15, 2019, 08:10:37 pm
Yea it was two complete separate channels & it used relays (for & aft) for switching.
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: VMS on December 16, 2019, 03:33:50 am
I found this thread but this one has shared tone stack so not sure if its the one you were looking:


http://el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=24600.0 (http://el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=24600.0)



Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: tubenit on December 16, 2019, 05:39:34 am
I simply modified Sluckey's Dual Marshall so each side has it's own tone stack.  On the attached SCH file there is a second page with the B+ rail, bias and PT.  I haven't built it but see no reason why it shouldn't work well.

With respect, Tubenit
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: Auke Jolman on December 16, 2019, 11:43:11 pm
Hi All,

Looking at the schematic Tubenit shared with us, I wonder if it would be possible to switch between the 2 preamps right after the CF and eliminate V4?
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: tubenit on December 17, 2019, 12:27:45 pm
Sluckey's dual plexi does that very thing.  However, the original poster was wanting two channels with each having a tone stack. 

With respect, Tubenit
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: Auke Jolman on December 19, 2019, 10:29:26 am
Hi Tubenit,

I think I messed up with what I wanted to ask. Therefore here's a schematic (quick and dirty) with my idea.
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: sluckey on December 19, 2019, 11:01:29 am
The switch connected to the cathode will have big DC voltage on it.
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: Auke Jolman on December 19, 2019, 12:14:32 pm
Thanks Sluckey, now it makes sense to not do it that way!
Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: VMS on December 19, 2019, 01:20:23 pm
Hi All,

Looking at the schematic Tubenit shared with us, I wonder if it would be possible to switch between the 2 preamps right after the CF and eliminate V4?


That cf can drive multiple tone stacks, you can do it like this. Similar to JVM models.


https://el34world.com/charts/Schematics/files/Marshall/Marshall_jvm410_sch.pdf (https://el34world.com/charts/Schematics/files/Marshall/Marshall_jvm410_sch.pdf)





Title: Re: Help! Looking schem for 2 channel JCM800 type with channel switching
Post by: DummyLoad on December 19, 2019, 01:33:03 pm
concept - dual 2004/1987 circuits with separate preamps all the way to the LTPI.

from the LTPI to output stage it is essentially the same circuits for both models. UL output depicted. 

a complex build for sure and not one for a novice builder. no layout provided - meld from the many existing layouts. respectfully, if you can't create your own layout, then probably something you shouldn't tackle. 


--pete