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Title: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on March 27, 2020, 08:39:56 am
In my last build I would like to hook up a rotary
 switch to act as a tone pot. It is a 6 position switch. I would leave the 6th one unconnected to have access to the original tone  of the amp.
What would be the best way to achieve that ?


Thanx
Colas
 

Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: sluckey on March 27, 2020, 09:03:26 am
Without seeing a schematic it's hard to understand exactly what you want. But, take a look at page 2 of this pdf. Might give you some ideas...

     http://sluckeyamps.com/VAC15/Vox_AC15.pdf
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: kagliostro on March 27, 2020, 09:28:40 am
There is also a different approach, option b instead of option a (Pot instead of Rotary Switch)

(https://i.imgur.com/1Kw5ibB.jpg)

Franco
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on March 27, 2020, 10:46:42 am

Very interesting indeed.  No signal is sent to gnd in the vox nor in Kagliostro circuits.Now would this mod be more effective early in the circuit rather than late ? I have an idea in mind: since that rotary switch  is stereo, placing it between the PI and the output tubes would improve or disminuish it s effectiveness ? The schem I don't have, but the preamp section is copied from the Marshall 2204 model, without the tone stack. It is my second 2204 since january. The first one is a bit less bright and more pleasant tonically, though the trannies are the same ( but the power tranny on this particular one which is a toroidal type from Avel Lindberg but with same voltages) this is why I d like to add a tone switch to adjust the brightness. I removed the 1000p cap accross the volume pot to give it a try but it changed the overall tone , though less bright. I put it back in place after. Same with the 470k bypass cap (470p).


Thanx buddies.


Colas
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: pdf64 on March 27, 2020, 11:14:05 am
The circuits below provide varying degrees of bass cut; sounds like  your goal is variable treble cut?
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: shooter on March 27, 2020, 11:17:50 am
instead of PI to PA, might be better as part of your NFB, like a rotary presence control   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on March 27, 2020, 11:18:33 am
Yes, treble cut
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on March 27, 2020, 11:20:34 am
Shooter  good idea, ( if there was a NFB  :icon_biggrin: )
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: kagliostro on March 27, 2020, 11:38:27 am
You can implement one NFB with values that can affect tone and not the general function of the amp

(I think  :icon_biggrin: )

Franco


p.s.: .... Treble Cut ......  :think1:  ......


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EDIT: I remembered !


(https://i.imgur.com/IgOsUvf.jpg)
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: nihonlabtiger on March 27, 2020, 11:49:48 am
when I finally get to the point of building my own amp, I'm thinking of doing something similar with a pushbutton and rotary control.

Check out the schematic for the Selmer Zodiac tone control. 

Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: kagliostro on March 27, 2020, 11:57:25 am
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..... with a pushbutton and rotary control

Or Rotary Switch + Rotary Control

(https://i.imgur.com/LNlh2Y1.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/64mDRKR.png)

other Selmer with Rotary Control

(https://i.imgur.com/w4LMHtP.jpg)

Franco

Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: shooter on March 27, 2020, 12:46:22 pm
just build this and be happy  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: jjasilli on March 27, 2020, 01:11:40 pm
Can't find it right now, but I could swear that Ted Weber's site had a schematic for a rotary SW for different tone caps, to match values for F, M & V tonestack values.
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on March 27, 2020, 01:19:50 pm
ended up with the easiest one, 1m pot between the k and right after the first coupling cap. A bit more subtle that what I was expecting but it does the job right. Thanx Franco, you're my man ! :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: kagliostro on March 27, 2020, 03:19:59 pm
De Nada  :icon_biggrin:

Franco
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: Colas LeGrippa on March 27, 2020, 05:30:14 pm
Hey Shooter, I d sure be happy I am certain that EQ would be awesome , I might build it one of these days !
Thanx for sharing it
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: shooter on March 27, 2020, 05:50:05 pm
 :laugh:

I got it from Franco couple years back  :icon_biggrin:

I'm not good enough to pull it off, but I keep lookin  :laugh:
Title: Re: Rotary switch for tone
Post by: kagliostro on March 31, 2020, 04:56:27 am
Ciao Colas

I was talking with a friend of a different thing, and a council for you exit out

is a thing only to have a try, but may be you can be happy with it

instead of the 1M pot give a try to a 2.2M - 3M - 5M

reverse log, but you can try with a no reverse one and if happy, you can obtain the reverse log with the trick of the paralleled resistors, if you are not able to find a commercial one

http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/potsecrets/potscret.htm (http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/potsecrets/potscret.htm)

(https://i.imgur.com/74D5cym.gif)

Franco