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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: dragonworks on October 05, 2021, 12:30:57 pm

Title: Building a LBL question
Post by: dragonworks on October 05, 2021, 12:30:57 pm
I have all the components to build a LBL. My question is as follows. The LBL is using three pronged plugs and receptacles. The old house I just bought only has two pronged outlets except for one room which I would not be working in. Is this going to make any difference? What if the amp you are working on only has a two pronged plug? I went to replace one of the outlets with a GFCI outlet but the old electrical boxes won't accommodate them. They are too small. I will have  take them out, cut the opening bigger and replace with a modern outlet box, making a simple job a pain in the butt.  I have not got around to doing that yet.ThanxJ.D.
Title: Re: Building a LBL question
Post by: sluckey on October 05, 2021, 01:03:36 pm
I guess you will either have to move or get some of these...

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Polarized-Grounding-Adapter/dp/B01M0FXMFK/
Title: Re: Building a LBL question
Post by: PRR on October 05, 2021, 02:01:38 pm
Get a big box, a 2-pin plug, a 3-pin outlet end, and put your GFI in there.

This has NOTHING to do with your Light Bulb Limiter (LBL) which protects the Amp. The GFI is to protect YOU.
Title: Re: Building a LBL question
Post by: dragonworks on October 05, 2021, 02:13:45 pm
I was going to ask if I should just put a GFCI outlet in there. Will do. Now to find my ceramic bulb holder. I just moved in, moved 22 years worth, I don''t have to tell ya. It might be easier to just buy a new one. I have plenty of those adapter plugs or I wouldn't  be able to plug any of my amps, washing machine, coffee maker, etc., in. The wife would be without a vacuum and that would be the end of the world!
Title: Re: Building a LBL question
Post by: PRR on October 05, 2021, 02:42:25 pm
... adapter plugs or .... would be without a vacuum and that would be the end of the world!

Gee, our 1953 Electrolux is and has always been 2-pin.

It's all-metal so I suppose 3-pin could be wise (not gonna do it). "Modern" vacs are all plastic (why we stay with the 'Lux) so I don't see what they ground?
Title: Re: Building a LBL question
Post by: dragonworks on October 05, 2021, 03:18:24 pm
I just left one of those vacuums in N.Y. I was sorry to let it go but I only had so much room. I did cut the power cord off it and kept that. Still a pack rat. I think both my shop vacs are three prong also.
Title: Re: Building a LBL question
Post by: HotBluePlates on October 05, 2021, 06:34:49 pm
Gee, our 1953 Electrolux is and has always been 2-pin.

Growing up, we had the early-70s model, but a mostly-identical vacuum.

The only downside was needing to buy bags all the time...
Title: Re: Building a LBL question
Post by: PRR on October 05, 2021, 08:06:39 pm
> buy bags all the time...

Now that the market is mature, 100 bags are $10. We use 5 per year, so a 20 year supply is less than lunch.

And part of our objection to the previous modern highly-rated sucker was: no bag, a really gross dusty cleaning chore after every use. The plastic bin was not up to repeated tapping and crack-patching. The cleanable HEPA filter did catch dust but cleaning it even outside seemed to release even more dust, and eventually choked the machine.

Oh: our machine is paper bags. The model before this was a cloth bag. Washable. Really no fun at all.

Frankie's Mom had a machine, Rainbow? Probably a D (https://www.rainvac.com/rainbow-vacuum-parts/d2). It caught the dust in a pan of water. Low (not zero) dust blow-through. You could put scents in the water. Pour the dirty pan down the toilet (gross). D parts still available. Whole pre-owned machines too. New E-model Rainbows are offered.
Title: Re: Building a LBL question
Post by: thetragichero on October 06, 2021, 12:06:54 am
I guess you will either have to move or get some of these...

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Polarized-Grounding-Adapter/dp/B01M0FXMFK/

there is a third option but it requires an 8ft copper rod (or two) along with considerably more time invested... and this is probably not the proper forum for it anyway (i did do this for my studio though. i don't care if the tv or appliancesget fried by nearby lightning but the amps and recording rig are another story)