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Title: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: jackplug1 on January 23, 2022, 10:36:06 am
May I run this by any of the experts on this site just to see if it's okay or if there is any errors or improvements to be made
All it is a simple plexi preamp whereby the tone stack feeds the grid of half a 12ax7 which drives the 6v6 SE
I'm sure it has been done before but I haven't seen a schematic.
It also has a variable voltage controller board.
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: sluckey on January 23, 2022, 10:53:54 am
Looks doable to me, but node D should be moved to the other side of that 20K. As drawn, node D is effectively connected to the reservoir caps and there will be several volts of ripple at that point. Not good for a preamp supply.
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: 66Strat on January 23, 2022, 11:10:57 am
Nice project.
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: jackplug1 on January 23, 2022, 11:12:27 am
Makes sense, I will change that.
Does it matter that the DC coupled cathode follower before the tone stack is split between two different triodes tubes and does not share the same valve base?
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: sluckey on January 23, 2022, 11:53:56 am
Makes sense, I will change that.
Does it matter that the DC coupled cathode follower before the tone stack is split between two different triodes tubes and does not share the same valve base?
no
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: tubenit on January 23, 2022, 12:09:58 pm
Quote
I'm sure it has been done before but I haven't seen a schematic.

I did something somewhat similar (but not the same)  and called it a Carolina Songbird. The owner likes the amp alot and I was asked to build a 2nd one for someone else but declined.

Soundclip for it is here:  https://soundclick.com/r/s86rcl (https://soundclick.com/r/s86rcl)

With respect, Tubenit
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: jordan86 on January 23, 2022, 02:02:33 pm
I also did a similar thing, if you can decipher my mangled schematic. It’s basically two parallel stages (ala Plexi) into a single ended power section. Started as more of a cascaded JCM800 type pre, more complex setup than yours probably. Was an AX84 build. I run a Kt66 now. KT66’s have a warmth that very flattering to the SE nature of the amp. And I’ve tried a TON of tubes. Hope some of this is helpful.

https://el34world.com/Forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27645.0;attach=92382;image
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: jackplug1 on January 25, 2022, 09:21:33 am
I did eventually find a schematic along the lines of what I proposed called a "seplex" in addition it has NFB, presence control and the master volume just before the output tube.
I don't understand why the HT is connected to the center of the pre-amp filaments?

https://chasingtone.com/the-seplex/ (https://chasingtone.com/the-seplex/)


Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: Willabe on January 25, 2022, 09:42:08 am
I don't understand why the HT is connected to the center of the pre-amp filaments?

https://chasingtone.com/the-seplex/ (https://chasingtone.com/the-seplex/)

DC elevated heaters.

http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/heater.html
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: jackplug1 on January 25, 2022, 01:09:15 pm
I didn't see anything in the link to explain my question?
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: sluckey on January 25, 2022, 01:20:16 pm
Read it again. It's explained about half way down the page.
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: jackplug1 on January 26, 2022, 09:45:40 am
Ah - I see, I think I will incorporate that into my build
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: jordan86 on January 26, 2022, 02:43:33 pm
Look how Merlin elevates the heaters on that page. Sluckey recommended that to me last year. Creating an aritifical center tap from the power tube heaters (Pin 2+7) to the power tube cathode. Simple and saves space. It’s been a while since I looked at the sePlex though, not sure if he ties the feedback in at the cathode or not. Could conflict.
Title: Re: plexichamp schematic plate driven output valve
Post by: Willabe on January 27, 2022, 09:49:06 am
Creating an aritifical center tap from the power tube heaters (Pin 2+7) to the power tube cathode. Simple and saves space.

You can only do that if the amps power tubes are K bias. Wont work with - grid bias.

And sometimes you need more than 30-35dcv to quite a tube. Up to 70-80dcv.