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Title: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: Esquirefreak on August 29, 2022, 02:30:20 pm
So... I've run into trouble with a new reverb unit build. At the DC end of the rectifier diodes I'm only getting 170VDC.

I've built the reverb using Tubeswell's hum loop blocker schematic, but I'm using a Hammond 261D6 PT (250VAC CT).

I just now noticed that his schematic says 240-0-240, which would make that 440VAC CT, right?

I've got 7.04VAC unloaded filament and there's 270VAC between the secondary HT leads.

× Am I missing something or am I simply using the wrong PT?

× Should I lift the HT CT and ground one of the HT leads (where the CT currently is connected) and then use the original 3-diode string?

Best regards from Sweden.

/Max
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: sluckey on August 29, 2022, 03:28:08 pm
I'm only getting 170VDC.
I'm using a Hammond 261D6 PT (250VAC CT).
250V CT is same as 125-0-125 and 170VDC is all you can get with your rectifier circuit. You can get 350VDC if you rewire those four diodes as a full wave bridge rectifier.
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: Esquirefreak on August 29, 2022, 03:54:25 pm
The previous one I built has a 290WEX PT (237VAC-0) and all voltages were right on spec. One of the HT leads grounded. That's why I thought maybe I could get 250VAC-0 out of this PT by lifting the CT and grounding the end of the coil.

If I were to rewire the diodes for FW rectification, how do I ground the CT? It would bring a lot more clarity to me if I could see it drawn in a schematic...

Sorry for being stupid  :laugh:
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: thetragichero on August 29, 2022, 04:13:19 pm
if you use a full wave bridge rectifier you would lift the ht center tap (cut the wire and heatshrink it)
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: sluckey on August 29, 2022, 04:14:00 pm
http://sluckeyamps.com/revibe/revibe.pdf
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: Esquirefreak on August 29, 2022, 04:22:40 pm
I'm so glad I have this forum! Thanks a bunch. Will be re-doing the rectifier tomorrow.

Here's the cab I finished today. I tried to make it look like a '61 rather than '63.

I'll update when I've got it up and running!

/Max
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: sluckey on August 29, 2022, 04:47:50 pm
It's very easy to convert your rectifier to a full wave bridge. Just move the PT wires around and ground the negative side of the bridge. Don't use the PT center tap. If you get stuck, post a hi-rez pic of your diodes and we can help.
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: tubeswell on August 29, 2022, 08:52:03 pm
I just now noticed that his schematic says 240-0-240, which would make that 440VAC CT, right?


Yep for a 2-phase rectifier, you use one side of a centre-tapped HT secondary to calculate the B+, i.e.; 240 x 1.414 = 339VDC.


(But that's different to how you rectify a High Tension winding where you don't have a CT, and the others have already picked up on that)
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: Esquirefreak on August 30, 2022, 12:08:11 am
Up and running!

306VDC at the plate of the 6K6 and dissipating 7.9w at idle. It's early morning here now and I just got back from my graveyard shift. So I'll sound check later today  :icon_biggrin:

/Max
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: sluckey on August 30, 2022, 06:54:03 am
Nice workmanship!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: Bieworm on August 31, 2022, 03:15:19 am
I finished one too 2 weeks ago... but I had to put in a 6V6GT. With the 6K6GT it was showing blocking distortion...
I built the cabinet to accomodate with my 18W Tremolo TMB 😉
Title: Re: Stuck on a 6G15 build.
Post by: Esquirefreak on August 31, 2022, 06:08:51 pm
That's a pretty build, right there!

I moved to a new apartment last month and since I have a spare room, I finally have a space dedicated to amps and guitars. Also, now my cats won't be able to chew up every single cable I have on the floor...