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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: acheld on September 27, 2022, 12:21:28 pm

Title: What is the purpose of cap between LTP anodes?
Post by: acheld on September 27, 2022, 12:21:28 pm
I've being looking at "unofficial" schematics for the BJ IV this summer, interested because of the change in the circuit from fixed to cathode biasing.

As it happens, the biasing scheme looks pretty generic to me.   (The enclosed clip has one glaring error in that C33 is backward, and there may be other errors as well).

Anyway, my question relates to "C14" -- a 47pF cap in between the anodes of the BJ LTP.   This is not a new design feature, and is present in the BJ III.    What is the purpose of this cap?
Title: Re: What is the purpose of cap between LTP anodes?
Post by: SILVERGUN on September 27, 2022, 12:40:03 pm
Amp Voicing (robrobinette.com) (https://robrobinette.com/Voicing_an_Amp.htm#Phase_Inverter_Plate-to-Plate_Snubber)

I was referring to this as a "snubber cap" until I read this from HBP on another site/thread:
"As an aside, it's unfortunate that Robinette chose to call that cap across the phase inverter plates a "snubber". An actual "snubber cap (http://www.cde.com/resources/catalogs/igbtAPPguide.pdf)" is a capacitor in series with a resistor, which is placed across a coil or switch to reduce voltage spikes in that coil/switch when current transitions from flowing to stopped."
Title: Re: What is the purpose of cap between LTP anodes?
Post by: sluckey on September 27, 2022, 12:41:47 pm
That cap will lower high frequency response, mostly stuff you can't even hear. Used to prevent hi-freq oscillations.
Title: Re: What is the purpose of cap between LTP anodes?
Post by: acheld on September 27, 2022, 04:27:09 pm
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stuff you can't even hear

oh that day is long done....

that makes sense.  thanks much. 
Title: Re: What is the purpose of cap between LTP anodes?
Post by: PRR on September 27, 2022, 09:50:53 pm
Plate impedance of 12AX7 is like 60k. So across two is like 120k.

50pF across 120k is 26kHz.

This is about supersonic whine, not voicing.