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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: toobzilla on November 20, 2022, 09:47:19 am

Title: Wiring a gz34 rectifier tube with 5v center tapped transformer..
Post by: toobzilla on November 20, 2022, 09:47:19 am
Hi all!
I'm trying to finish up a 5f6a clone & am learning that all center tapped windings are not our friend, lol.. wired conventionally, w c.t. to ground, blows fuse after gz34 starts to work. unhooking the ct from ground keeps the fuse from blowing but its got a buzz that it doesnt have when hooked up. My question is what do i do with the center tap? .. is there a different way to wire it?.. any help would be appreciated, particularly in layman's terms as i'm a rookie at this... thanks in advance!
                                                                                                             -Jon
Title: Re: Wiring a gz34 rectifier tube with 5v center tapped transformer..
Post by: sluckey on November 20, 2022, 09:53:33 am
DON'T CONNECT THE 5V CENTER TAP TO GROUND! Just tape the end of the wire and tuck it out of the way.
Title: Re: Wiring a gz34 rectifier tube with 5v center tapped transformer..
Post by: toobzilla on November 20, 2022, 09:56:31 am
Ive done that but it seems to introduce hum audible thru speaker even in standby.. that didnt exist in the 10 seconds or so before getting angry, lol.
Title: Re: Wiring a gz34 rectifier tube with 5v center tapped transformer..
Post by: HotBluePlates on November 20, 2022, 10:02:06 am
... what do i do with the center tap? ...

I will guess you have wired the rectifier socket like the original layout (https://el34world.com/charts/Schematics/files/Fender/Fender_bassman_5f6a.pdf), with 5v wires to Pin 8 and Pin 2, then an additional wire from Pin 8 to the Standby Switch.

Try removing the wire from Pin 8 to Standby.  Instead, connect your 5v CT to the spot on the Standby Switch.  This is a valid use of the 5v CT.



If you still have buzz or hum after this, the 5v winding & the rectifier likely are not the cause.
Title: Re: Wiring a gz34 rectifier tube with 5v center tapped transformer..
Post by: sluckey on November 20, 2022, 10:05:33 am
That hum is due to some other problem, not due to disconnecting that center tap from ground. At this point you have probably damaged the GZ34 and possibly damaged the PT too. Hope not. Try another GZ34.
Title: Re: Wiring a gz34 rectifier tube with 5v center tapped transformer..
Post by: toobzilla on November 20, 2022, 10:06:38 am
... what do i do with the center tap? ...

I will guess you have wired the rectifier socket like the
original layout (https://el34world.com/charts/Schematics/files/Fender/Fender_bassman_5f6a.pdf), with 5v wires to Pin 8 and Pin 2, then an additional wire from Pin 8 to the Standby Switch.  You guessed correctly,lol

Try removing the wire from Pin 8 to Standby.  Instead, connect your 5v CT to the spot on the Standby Switch.  This is a valid use of the 5v CT.
 I'll give that a shot...


If you still have buzz or hum after this, the 5v winding & the rectifier likely are not the cause.

Thanks a ton!... much appreciated!
Edit; Fixed quote. Willabe
Title: Re: Wiring a gz34 rectifier tube with 5v center tapped transformer..
Post by: tubeswell on November 20, 2022, 12:44:13 pm
A 5V rectifier tube winding has to be connected the B+, not the ground. If you connect it to the ground (via a center tap), the B+ will short to ground, causing the Mains fuse to blow (hopefully before the PT is damaged). But as sluckey says, it may be too late for that warning.


If a 5V winding comes with a CT, you can connect the CT to the B+ (instead of connecting Pin 8 to the B+).