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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: mmrxcsr01 on December 16, 2022, 10:23:54 am

Title: How to identify part values....
Post by: mmrxcsr01 on December 16, 2022, 10:23:54 am
...specifically, paper electrolytics. I have an old, old amp, no schematic, and the cardboard tube is just completely unreadable. I have searched every way I can think of online, it's not in Doug's files....any suggestions? TIA....
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: acheld on December 16, 2022, 10:26:45 am
Is it a commercially built amp?  Pictures?   
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: mmrxcsr01 on December 16, 2022, 10:35:18 am
It's 1949 Silvertone, model 1304, 5u4, a pair of 6l6's....12sj7, 12sn7, 7c7. Field coil 12". Passes signal, but with a bad hum. Sorry, no pix....from what I've been able find from a few searches, this was a transition model, only produced for 6 months...
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: sluckey on December 16, 2022, 11:26:57 am
This model 1303 looks like a close match. I'd use these cap values...

     https://el34world.com/charts/Schematics/files/Silvertone/Silvertone_1303.pdf
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: mmrxcsr01 on December 16, 2022, 11:48:28 am
Thanks Slucky...so 8mfd at 450vdc should about cover it....Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: PRR on December 16, 2022, 12:13:18 pm
Silvertone wudda used whatever they could get (post-war shortages).

Yes, a fist full of 8uFd seems likely.

The field-coil speaker was already going out of style. But so were large parlor radios, and maybe Silvertone had a 6-month supply to use-up.
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: mmrxcsr01 on December 16, 2022, 12:33:28 pm
Thanks PRR, that thought hadn't occurred to me...here's a pic, from online...
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: sluckey on December 16, 2022, 01:33:53 pm
Three of those caps are filter caps and should be rated about 450v. The fourth cap is a cathode bypass and only needs to be rated for 50V.

You can buy all four caps for under $10 at AES is you use MOD brand.
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: mmrxcsr01 on December 16, 2022, 02:49:49 pm
Sluckey, what about the pot for the trem? It's missing, and a weird 650k value. It controls the speed; do you think a 500k would suffice?
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: sluckey on December 16, 2022, 04:29:57 pm
I would use a 1M pot. Bigger values can give you a slower speed and still give the same fast speed as a smaller pot.
Title: Re: How to identify part values....
Post by: mmrxcsr01 on December 17, 2022, 08:57:53 am
Thanks again all, much appreciated. Merry Christmas....