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Amp Stuff => Tube Amp Building - Tweaks - Repairs => Topic started by: johngovan on December 23, 2022, 08:59:40 am

Title: Tube Life. CB vs FB
Post by: johngovan on December 23, 2022, 08:59:40 am
Which bias will give tubes a longer life? Given the amp is used only 8 hours twice a week?

For example a fender deluxe reverb being a fixed bias vs. tweed deluxe being a cathode bias.
Title: Re: Tube Life. CB vs FB
Post by: shooter on December 23, 2022, 09:17:16 am
it must be 20 below zero there also  :icon_biggrin:


guitar players want amps with guitar sounds, if that means new PA's every year, cost of sounding good
corksniffers want, well, they don't know what they want, there's no consensus  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Tube Life. CB vs FB
Post by: sluckey on December 23, 2022, 09:32:31 am
Which bias will give tubes a longer life? Given the amp is used only 8 hours twice a week?

For example a fender deluxe reverb being a fixed bias vs. tweed deluxe being a cathode bias.
The deluxe reverb gets to idle and take a break when you are not playing. The tweed deluxe is always running pedal to the metal.
Title: Re: Tube Life. CB vs FB
Post by: acheld on December 23, 2022, 10:26:28 am
It also depends on the bias level.

Example:   Blues Juniors I-III were fixed bias, but were biased hot from the factory, and their EL-84s suffered for it.  Whereas, the BJ IV is now cathode biased with a "reference book" Rk of 270R (per tube), and I have not heard of early tube failure on forums.   

Title: Re: Tube Life. CB vs FB
Post by: kagliostro on December 23, 2022, 01:27:01 pm
I agree, all is on the Bias Level


Franco
Title: Re: Tube Life. CB vs FB
Post by: johngovan on December 23, 2022, 08:35:17 pm
Which bias will give tubes a longer life? Given the amp is used only 8 hours twice a week?

For example a fender deluxe reverb being a fixed bias vs. tweed deluxe being a cathode bias.
The deluxe reverb gets to idle and take a break when you are not playing. The tweed deluxe is always running pedal to the metal.

Thanks Steve for help. Really appreciate it. 
Title: Re: Tube Life. CB vs FB
Post by: johngovan on December 23, 2022, 08:36:30 pm
It also depends on the bias level.

Example:   Blues Juniors I-III were fixed bias, but were biased hot from the factory, and their EL-84s suffered for it.  Whereas, the BJ IV is now cathode biased with a "reference book" Rk of 270R (per tube), and I have not heard of early tube failure on forums.

Thanks a lot acheld. So it all depends on how hot or cold the amp is biased.
Title: Re: Tube Life. CB vs FB
Post by: johngovan on December 23, 2022, 08:37:14 pm
I agree, all is on the Bias Level


Franco

Thanks Franco.
Title: Re: Tube Life. CB vs FB
Post by: pdf64 on December 24, 2022, 04:30:02 am
I think it also is affected by the amp design, especially peak dissipation of anode and screen grid, combined with how hard it gets used.
eg 8 hours of coffee shop jazz is easier on the valves than 8 hours cranked up overdriven.