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Title: What 12” speakers for AC50 2x12 setup?
Post by: Jalmeida on April 23, 2023, 02:04:35 pm
I picked up a small box AC50 in need of some attention. Also found a modern Vox V212BN cabinet that i think will be a decent match. But I admittedly am a diehard Alnico speaker fan and want to find a good speaker to compliment the vox chime and that can handle the 50w. My go-to is celestion blues, but that won’t handle the wattage. Originally the factory AC50 cabinets used 2x12”(celestion silvers, Goodmans or Fanes) and a mid-range horn. The story is that the EL34 were a bit darker than the EL84 and the horn both compensated and helped when paired with the lower wattage speakers. But I think I can avoid the horn.

Any suggestions?? So, here is my short list:

Celestion gold
Scumback Scumnico H75
Weber Blue(higher wattage variant)
Celestion Ruby
Title: Re: What 12” speakers for AC50 2x12 setup?
Post by: acheld on April 23, 2023, 06:46:20 pm
Love the Celestion Gold . . . but, very pricey.

You might check with Weber directly and ask for advice.   Last year I asked about how to get a tone I wanted, and they gave great advice.  I ended up with two different Weber speakers in a cab, and they sound awesome together.  Much less expensive.   

No experience with Scumback, though they are well regarded.
Title: Re: What 12” speakers for AC50 2x12 setup?
Post by: Jalmeida on April 24, 2023, 09:05:56 am
Love the Celestion Gold . . . but, very pricey.

You might check with Weber directly and ask for advice.   Last year I asked about how to get a tone I wanted, and they gave great advice.  I ended up with two different Weber speakers in a cab, and they sound awesome together.  Much less expensive.   

No experience with Scumback, though they are well regarded.

All these alnicos are spendy it seems. Even the webers. I think the magnets are the big cost denominator.

About 6-months ago I went through the ringer trying to get Weber to answer the phone, emails or call me back. Any tips on getting a hold of them?
Title: Re: What 12” speakers for AC50 2x12 setup?
Post by: acheld on April 24, 2023, 10:07:36 am
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Any tips on getting a hold of them?

I just used their contact form https://www.tedweber.com/contact/ (https://www.tedweber.com/contact/) which worked in 2021. Since then, I've used their direct emails successfully.

taweber@tedweber.com, or
CJ, who is their speaker recommendation expert:  cj@tedweber.com  or text him @ 765-480-1376
Title: Re: What 12” speakers for AC50 2x12 setup?
Post by: scstill on April 24, 2023, 04:00:56 pm
Any experience with any of these 12 inchers?
https://wgsusa.com/products-grid
I have used an 8" in a 5E1 build and really like it
https://wgsusa.com/sites/all/themes/wgs/files/WGS-tonechart.pdf
Title: Re: What 12” speakers for AC50 2x12 setup?
Post by: Jalmeida on May 01, 2023, 12:23:02 pm
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Any tips on getting a hold of them?

I just used their contact form https://www.tedweber.com/contact/ (https://www.tedweber.com/contact/) which worked in 2021. Since then, I've used their direct emails successfully.

taweber@tedweber.com, or
CJ, who is their speaker recommendation expert:  cj@tedweber.com  or text him @ 765-480-1376

Perfect! I texted CJ and he is helping me. Thanks so much.
Title: Re: What 12” speakers for AC50 2x12 setup?
Post by: Jalmeida on May 08, 2023, 10:37:14 am
Any experience with any of these 12 inchers?
https://wgsusa.com/products-grid
I have used an 8" in a 5E1 build and really like it
https://wgsusa.com/sites/all/themes/wgs/files/WGS-tonechart.pdf

I am not familiar with those specific speakers, but I have been researching their Blackhawk Alnicos. If I were you I would make another post about it as I am sure others here have used them and can chime in.
Title: Re: What 12” speakers for AC50 2x12 setup?
Post by: Jalmeida on May 20, 2023, 01:52:06 pm
I ended up scoring some vintage Celestion Vox Silvers with trashed cones and needing reconing. So I am having them reconed with Mueller H1777 cones but instead with higher wattage celestion voicecoils. The nice thing with the G12 alnico speakers is the parts are mostly interchangeable.