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Title: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on July 27, 2024, 12:31:00 pm
This is perfect


Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on July 27, 2024, 12:33:33 pm
 :laugh:
watched it a couple hours ago


we live in interesting times
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on July 27, 2024, 12:34:43 pm
Glad you liked it.  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Willabe on July 27, 2024, 01:19:39 pm
Not sure they can get her across the finish line. There's a LOT of past clips of her that show how far left she is.

And she has no record to run on.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on July 27, 2024, 01:24:23 pm
She was in charge of the border.That pretty much says it all.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on July 27, 2024, 02:58:33 pm
in '20 2+2 = 17 so I'll wait to see if the mathematic folk got that problem sorted out, I have my doubts since there are 12 million new ways to become creative, my entire career was based on imaginary numbers that somehow worked just fine  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Willabe on July 27, 2024, 04:00:54 pm
She was in charge of the border.That pretty much says it all.

Right and now all the media and the White say she was never the border Czar.

It's taped and in print all over, but they still say she never was.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: mresistor on July 27, 2024, 04:21:45 pm
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Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on July 27, 2024, 04:44:23 pm
as long as we're in 3rd rail territory;


I put this all in a realm way above average human understanding, we're seeing spiritual warfare played out real-time;

signs, signs, everywhere the signs.....


a near miss
Opening ceremonies
prostitute for president
the further back you look, the more the "planets" align


got 1/2 garden re-tilled, probably sow wheat and potato's in the freed up areas, since most of what the world is doing is "out of my hands"
planting food seems appropriate.





Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on July 28, 2024, 07:22:12 am
Ok, we have some people who are aware here.  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on July 28, 2024, 08:06:07 am
Main stream media is dead
They are all just propaganda spewing puppets.

Walter Cronkite is rolling over in his grave.

Bill O'Reilly is one of the best sources for real news
I subscribe to his channel and a few others

https://www.youtube.com/@BillOReilly
 (https://www.youtube.com/@BillOReilly)
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on July 28, 2024, 08:20:27 am
it's always good to check what "main-stream" wants us to "know" today, that way we can run it through an invertor and have usable info  :icon_biggrin:


been taking in Tuckers work, once "mainstream" set him free, He's amazing.

Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on July 28, 2024, 08:25:56 am
Guys like Bill and Tucker show you the crap that MSNBC and others are spewing out, so there's no need to go watch them.

Also PDB - Patrick David Bets has a great channel

https://www.youtube.com/@PBDPodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@PBDPodcast)
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on July 28, 2024, 08:43:16 am
Dave Rubin is great also

https://www.youtube.com/@RubinReport (https://www.youtube.com/@RubinReport)
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: mresistor on July 28, 2024, 09:57:06 am
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Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on July 28, 2024, 11:59:55 am
I have seen Dan Bongino on some of the podcast I linked above.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: bmccowan on July 28, 2024, 06:08:22 pm
Hey friends,
I used to be in politics. I worked for several candidates and one federal administration. I also worked on some initiative petition efforts. I left that all behind about 40 years ago. (I'm a bit over 70 now) I left it because I had conservative friends and liberal friends - good friends. Liberals called the conservatives assholes and idiots; conservatives call liberals assholes and idiots. None of my friends were assholes or idiots. They just had different beliefs, values, and goals.
I urge people I know and like to not fall into the same trap. It's useless. I can assure you that elective politics is all cynical on both sides. Everything either side is saying is pure BS. Getting elected is the only goal.
This country and world is headed for a very dark place no matter who wins. Its a tragedy that I wish the next generations did not have to go through.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on July 29, 2024, 04:28:47 am
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This country and world is headed for a very dark place no matter who wins


agreed, never been a team red, team blue thing for me, It's always been paying for corruption, having corruption "set the rules",
i don't like it! :cussing:


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different beliefs, values, and goals.


that's what made use great, but when corruption "mandates" those on ME!!!, i will not go quiet into the night.

my advice to the young'ns I talk with, "use the rights granted to you by the Constitution, 100's of thousand dead people, to VOTE STUPID PEOPLE out of office"  If that fails, it's all mad-max anyway.

The bacon, tators n onions on a wood stove, rain on the tin roof, hot coffee, prayer, now that's The America I was brought up in n hope my Grandkid can know that same sense of "a blessed Nation"




Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: mresistor on August 01, 2024, 12:09:12 pm
There is a man that has researched Kamala Harris in depth for many years. For those that want to know.


https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/trevor-loudon-who-are-kamala-harriss-radical-marxists-associates/
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 01, 2024, 12:12:46 pm
Basically she's a far left clueless socialist that did nothing as VP.
Except cause destruction to our society

She has no business running for president.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 01, 2024, 01:38:58 pm
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She has no business running for president.
:laugh:
she's not, she's running for starlet of the universe, and the puppet masters are ok with that.


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clueless socialist


behind the curtain She's cruel n calculating, I have her, like her daddy before, as a died in the wool Marxist.


one of the "trends" I've been watching; "How fast the internet scrubs history", "re-writes narratives" even in the light of "original content" still out there.

since 1/2 of Americans only consume what they're "given" it doesn't bode well for the future.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 01, 2024, 01:58:53 pm
Google was scrubbing any searches for Trump assignation the other day
You could not get any results
I just checked today and they are showing some results
The progressive left is out of control

Google donates millions to the Dems


Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Willabe on August 02, 2024, 10:42:37 pm
Google donates millions to the Dems

Yes and then the Dems leave them alone. Their a monopoly.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 03, 2024, 07:31:44 am
Facebook is in on the scam also
I tried to post a link to the video in my first post
A pop up message said it was against community standards
It would not let me link to that video

Free speech is being denied on Facebook and other platforms.

If Elon had not bought Twitter, it would still be going on there also.
The government had Facebook and Twitter scrubbing anything to do with the Election if it was not a dem post
They also were scrubbing anti Vax Covid post.

It's important that people wake up and vote out the insanity that is going on.
Your rights given to you by the constitution are in peril.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Lectroid on August 03, 2024, 08:03:43 am
Friends,

I'm with bmccowan on one thing.  Reading this thread is a disappointment.

Personally, I prefer progressive policies over conservative policies.  Always have.  But I know that other people hold different views from me.  I'm fine with that.  That diversity of views makes America stronger.  I respect yours and you respect mine, right?

That said, I really hate to read comments like those here attacking a certain female candidate.  They were almost gleefully mean, and juvenile.  To disagree with a woman candidate by calling her a prostitute?  When did that become adult behavior? 

How about we all keep our political discussions strictly in the realm of ideas?  Let's support our positions with facts.  Let's disagree over policies instead of making personal attacks.

As tubenit says,

With respect

Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 03, 2024, 08:19:15 am
Sorry, this is too importantThis country is in real danger

The progressives have ruined states like California, New York and othersNot to mention weaponizing the FBI, ATF and other government organizations.
Free speech is being violated
They are coming after your other rights like the 2nd amendment.
Children being indoctrinated with this insane LGBQ xyz insanity

Schools are indoctrinating young people like the idiots at Hamas rallies.
Not to mention the totally illegal southern border issue with millions of illegal aliens that have crossed

People have had enough of all this non sense
You think Kamala Harris is a legit candidate for presidency?
People voted for Joe Biden, not Kamala Harris
Dem convention is supposed to pick the candidate, not Obama

The so called news has been bought out and no longer gives people the facts, only propaganda.
It's best that you not read any more of this if you are offended.
This is too important
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 03, 2024, 09:15:09 am
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To disagree with a woman candidate by calling her a prostitute?


I don't care about left v right, I DO care that TRUTH be known, and that was her profession it wasn't to "disagree".


I cleaned turds out of other peoples toilets, that was my profession (commercial janitor) Truth is truth, or facts are facts, emotion has ZERO to do with either.


you decide who you want to represent you, it's still sorta a free country


kinda funny, these 2 things just popped up in my feed about 20 minutes ago

Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 03, 2024, 09:22:55 am
I am not a Dem or a republican
I am in independent

I can choose from any party based on the best candidate
Right now, there has been so much damage done to this country from the extreme left that there is no other choice but to boot them from power.

People who think the Dems are great are not getting the info
Most likely they are watching the news that is prepared for you

They need to wake up and see the big picture here.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: mresistor on August 03, 2024, 09:33:41 am
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Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: acheld on August 03, 2024, 10:16:09 am

Like some others on the site, I am a moderate.   You might not like that, and you might call me a lefty, but that's what I've been for ages, and I'm proud of my beliefs. 

I do think both bmccowan and lectroid have valid points, and deserve respect.  Of course you have the right to disagree.  But both of these guys have contributed to this website for years and have earned their respect, at least from me.

I personally think the real threats we face as a country come from outside -- Russia, China, and Iran. 

Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 03, 2024, 10:35:59 am
There's no arguingFacts are facts
If you believe the government are our rulers, you need to read the US constitution
The first 3 words are WE The People, Not We the government
The founding fathers got it right when they created the constitution protecting the people from an over reaching government.

This current government is way out of control
Anyone that thinks everything is great may like to move to Canada
You can have a government take away access to your money in the bank because you did not want to get the so called vaccine
That has all turned out to be a lie

Or maybe China where you have a social credit score system
You can be penalized for speaking out and your score goes down
Then you are restricted because of your score.

Now we have a socialist running for president that has never done anything in her previous jobs that qualify her for president.
Fact are facts
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 03, 2024, 11:12:01 am

my "beliefs" come from God, His word, This world, all that happens, it's part of HIS plan, sometimes I'm baffled by what's happening, but I always know "In the end, it is for His glory"


I WILL and always have voted because I believe I've been Blest to be placed in this Country at this time.  I'll compare "mans actions" to Gods word, and vote for the one that gets "closest to those words, both in words, but more importantly, deeds, what is provable with fact.

I've been a Libertarian since I learned about Guvmint in 11th grade, I have never believed it was in my best interest to "appoint" someone to lord over me, I have a LORD.
so if you're an adult and want to put eels up the chute, or shoot goffers with an Abrams, enjoy.  When you "Mandate" I must do the same, that's a line you can't cross;  "Your rights END at the tip of my nose"


Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 05, 2024, 04:41:17 am
after scramblin some free-range eggs, garden greens, checked into the matrix to see how the world is starting it's week.


unplugging from the matrix.....
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 05, 2024, 06:55:00 am
The next election will be a critical moment in history
Title: Bill O'Reilly lays out the fact again
Post by: EL34 on August 05, 2024, 08:07:47 am
Bill is not part of the propaganda controlled media
I subscribe to his channel to get factual news

This one lays out the Kamala BS


Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 05, 2024, 08:48:01 am
heading out but had to look



Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: jjasilli on August 05, 2024, 11:17:54 am

The truism that "facts are facts" breaks down in practice.  We are not omniscient.  Besides death & taxes, a few geometric theorems, and Ohm's Law, very little can be known with certainty.  A lot of what we say is fact is actually taken on faith.  Hence, people do not have to accept other people's facts.

Facts may be considered to be data points, like the stars are points of light in the night sky.  In isolation facts are not of much help.  They need to be interpreted. The ancient Greeks looked up at the night sky and grouped the stars into a set of constellations, complete with complex stories (narratives). Other cultures might "see" different constellations and have different stories.  So the problem of interpretation persists, even if the facts are agreed upon (everybody sees the same stars).

Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 05, 2024, 11:22:42 am
Hers' some facts

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/fact-check-the-truth-about-bidens-failed-presidency
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 05, 2024, 12:26:54 pm
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"facts are facts"
and we have a winner!


when "we as a society" can no longer agree on a common starting point, "facts", it becomes garbage in, garbage out.


there was a time when the founding documents were our "collective facts", common religion, common "purpose".  Corruption in all it's form from lawfare to activism n greed has scrambled those collective facts into uselessness.


bmccowan stated earlier something like "No matter which side wins, we are headed for troubling times"


we are about to "restore factory settings"
"weak men bring hard times"


we can't "go back" in time, we're now incapable of compromise, so, like all nations before, we will descend to the least common denominator, survival.  this year, 60 years from now  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: jjasilli on August 05, 2024, 02:25:11 pm
Doug, I agree with you! 
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 06, 2024, 01:15:30 am
and this right here is why we can't have nice things in MI!
on a happy note, I did get more bullets yesterday  :icon_biggrin:


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/05/nolte-michigan-launches-snitch-line-to-stop-election-misinformation/
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 06, 2024, 07:51:03 am
How the heck did you guys get such a horrible governor in MI?
Trying to compete with CA, NY and IL for the most woke state??

Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 06, 2024, 09:15:54 am
 :laugh:
I call 'em the 3 Witches, or the Witch of Mer n her 2 sycophants. the AG n SecState
n Yep Dominion voting machines are all the rage here  :help:



If you look at '20 and '22 elections, the "anomalies" that always got shot-down for "no standing" in the courts
there were 5-7 states that stand out;
MI, MA, WI, PA, CO, GA, MN  Throw in AK, just for good measure


but we got free weed.  Pot-shops now outnumber liquor stores.


Now with my tin-hat on;


I call those States "the King makers" they as a block, will keep any candidate from the 270 required
so no person will become President without "corruptions" blessing 
 
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 06, 2024, 09:18:41 am
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but we got free weed.

What is Free Weed?
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: 66Strat on August 06, 2024, 09:23:30 am
Transit Authority of River City (TARC Louisville, KY) purchased 9 Proterra electric buses at a cost of $9 million as part of Obama's green initiative. The buses sit idle because of maintenance and reliability issues. In July, TARC announced the planned purchase of 3 additional green electric buses at a cost of $3 million. These green buses get their electricity from a coal fired electric power plant (Mill Creek). :l2:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 06, 2024, 09:29:37 am
More progressive nonsense in action.

Common sense, logic and truth are not to the liking of progressives

Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 06, 2024, 11:38:16 am
weed = pot, marijuana


that's how we were "sold down the river" politically.  it's legal now, pot shops everywhere, we used to be known as a destination for our Great Lakes, the beaches n shore-lines.  Now we are one of the largest "weed Holiday" destinations in the bordering "non-legal" States.


Working at the BBG, on summer weekends you'd have 9 of 10 cars from out of state, mostly 20 to 30 year old's taking their weed holiday.
you can buy 2 ounces each, at ~~$50 an OZ, car with 4 people = 8OZ, they get home sell it for double to triple and pay for the weekend to MI
gotta love the gray economy
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 06, 2024, 11:46:34 am
Free was what I was asking about
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 06, 2024, 01:13:13 pm
ah, sorry;
in that "law" we "farmers" can legally grow 12 plants, so outside the metro areas it's "free" we are so flush that it's not even barter anymore, last year couple friends had a bad year, I told em to stop by with grocery bags, they took what they needed.  :icon_biggrin:


down the road about a mile, the Somali's from MN bought a house that had a 30 X 60 pole barn, payed 40% above market price for the place,
put in 400A service.  haven't confirmed, but best guess there are 10-12 people listed as "property owners", so the math;
12 plants X 12 people = 144 plants X 4 harvests a year = 576 plants  each plant yields about a grand retail = $576,000 a year.


now if a bunch of redneck farm boys with family ties back 200 years did that.......lawfare  :BangHead:


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Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: clyde on August 06, 2024, 01:45:28 pm
She was in charge of the border.That pretty much says it all.


Actually she wasn't.


https://www.vox.com/politics/361635/kamala-harris-border-czar-immigration-mexico-guatemala-rnc (https://www.vox.com/politics/361635/kamala-harris-border-czar-immigration-mexico-guatemala-rnc)


I'm from Canada Doug, I know you think it's a communist country but not so.  When I look at the partisan snake pit that the most powerful country in the world has become I get a little worried.
There's so much misinformation and shit being slung, there's no common sense or purpose anymore.  That folks lack the critical thinking component to separate the wheat from the chaff is largely I think, a failing of the educational system.  People like easy solutions and subscribe to conspiracy theories as it's easy for them.  I'm not sure that Bill O'Reilly is a journalist, more like a commentator for the right and Tucker, well he's just a fucking ass-clown.  Kamala Harris may not be qualified in some people's estimation to be president but she's damn sure more qualified than her opponent, who babbles on about windmills and water circling the drain. 


I heard recently a US politician giving a commencement speech to a graduating class somewhere saying that China and the USA need to communicate and collaborate to solve probably the most pressing issue facing us at present-the climate.  I found out it was Bernie Sanders, still made sense but the message would be completely discounted by the right because of the source.  This is a sure guarantee of failure on this and many other issues.  What happens in your country affects the whole world for better or lately, worse. 


Socialism is such a dirty word in the US, but a little wouldn't hurt, perhaps giving universal healthcare to everyone.  You basically have two right wing parties in your country, one just more than the other. 


I really hope you guys get your act together soon. 
With respect,


BG     
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 06, 2024, 01:49:44 pm
Kamala was in charge of the border
The propaganda press are all trying to make her look presidential and hope the sheep will go along with their phony narative

She is a total failure
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President Joe Biden has tapped Vice President Kamala Harris to lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern

https://apnews.com/general-news-3400f56255e000547d1ca3ce1aa6b8e9 (https://apnews.com/general-news-3400f56255e000547d1ca3ce1aa6b8e9)
Just one quick search from 2021There are many others, but you won't get any real news from left wing propaganda sources

Not sure why you think Canada are communist
You PM is a total idiot, that I do know


Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: clyde on August 06, 2024, 02:52:12 pm
I totally agree Mr. Trudeau is an idiot, but the people who tied up our capital with their COVID "protest" are total losers.  "Freedom", from tyranny, oppression, public health measures and common sense.  My wife works in the health care system and can tell you stories that would make you shake your head.


From your link, again the devil's in the details:
Harris is tasked with overseeing diplomatic efforts to deal with issues spurring migration in the Northern Triangle countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, as well as pressing them to strengthen enforcement on their own borders, administration officials said. She’s also tasked with developing and implementing a long-term strategy that gets at the root causes of migration from those countries.
And from the same article:
Still, the numbers of both unaccompanied minors and families encountered at the border are lower than they were at various points during the Trump administration, including in spring 2019.
Vox, from whom I quoted in my post is not a "propaganda" outlet but a fact checking site. 






Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: mresistor on August 06, 2024, 03:45:04 pm
Vox, from whom I quoted in my post is not a "propaganda" outlet but a fact checking site. 
Umm  really ....
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 06, 2024, 03:50:33 pm
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Socialism is such a dirty word in the US, but a little wouldn't hurt, perhaps giving universal healthcare to everyone.


 :laugh:
we did that, called "obama-care"  there were 38 million without heathcare, from 2008 - 2014 his socialized medical cost 58 million high paying jobs, all of them HAD good healthcare, the total collapse of American specialists, the clinicians, staff was insane!  not to worry though, they've all been replaced now by H1-B folk  :l2:


perfect example of socialized med; wait a year to get a tooth pulled, only got 10 months left to wait!  before socialized med, about a month for an oral surgeon.


the best part about socialism, you can vote them in, then you get to have civil war to get rid of them yeeha!!!
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Willabe on August 06, 2024, 04:41:26 pm
Actually she wasn't.
https://www.vox.com/politics/361635/kamala-harris-border-czar-immigration-mexico-guatemala-rnc (https://www.vox.com/politics/361635/kamala-harris-border-czar-immigration-mexico-guatemala-rnc)

No, actually she definitely was given the job as border czar by Biden. There are dozens of clips of her being called the border czar by the left news shows for several years in the Biden presidency.

Vox is a far left media site. They along with all the other far left and left media sits/shows are all now saying the same thing in unison, that she was never the border czar. And these same far left sites have dozens of clips calling her the border czar over several years. They are now trying to re-write the story line. They are covering for her.

What happens here is someone from the 'top' sends out a text/email to the left and then that day they all say the same thing almost word for word. It's rigged. Happens all the time. Weekly.

And the numbers on illegals entering the country are only lower on paper. They are not even able to document all that are coming in, understaffed, plus those that are using the Biden immigration app are not being counted  and the government is also flying in people directly.

And the people are not coming here for the most part because of 'problems' in there country as much as they are coming here because when they get here the government gives them free housing, free food, money, free health care, etc. If the government would stop doing that, they'd stop coming. And there coming from all over the world.

Why are they coming to the US in such large numbers and not to Canada? Canada has universal healthcare.   
The things you are saying are the re-written story by the left, it's not true. 

Nothing wrong with Tucker.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Willabe on August 06, 2024, 05:22:42 pm
I really hope you guys get your act together soon.   
With respect,

You sure got a lot to say about the US considering you don't live here and by what your saying, really don't know what's going on here. And putting 'with respect' on the end doesn't mean a thing, your not being respectful.

When I look at the partisan snake pit that the most powerful country in the world has become I get a little worried.

It really took a huge turn for the worse with Obama. That's when things really started to get dirty. And many think Obama's exerting a lot of say in the white house as a shadow government because of Biden's ill health. 

What happens in your country affects the whole world for better or lately, worse.

There's so much misinformation and shit being slung, there's no common sense or purpose anymore.  That folks lack the critical thinking component to separate the wheat from the chaff is largely I think, a failing of the educational system.


That's why we want these no common sense woke-libs voted out. And yes, they have been teaching the children woke nonsense instead of reading/writing/math and how to think. It's indoctrination and MANY parents want it to end. (I get the feeling their doing the same in Canada too.) And 'misinformation' is a woke coined supposed made up word the way it's being used now a days. Just dumb. How about, that's not true, those are not the facts or that's a lie?       

Kamala Harris may not be qualified in some people's estimation to be president but she's damn sure more qualified than her opponent, who babbles on about windmills and water circling the drain.

1st off, She is without a doubt NOT quilifed to be president! Have you heard any of Kamala's statements that were not pre written? You can't make sense of it, word salad. And there's many clips out there of her talking nonsense.

Secondly, up until covid hit, Trump had the country's economy running great, something like 50 year low unemployment, lowest black, lowest brown and lowest women's unemployment all time. Salaries were going up. Energy was down, people were able to save some money again, etc.
With Biden/Harris policies, record inflation, high energy costs, record credit card debt, very high interest on loans, well over 10 million illegals came in, that's just the 1s they know about, etc.
Ummmm, I think I'll go with door #1.     

You basically have two right wing parties in your country, one just more than the other.

Your way off. Not anywhere near to being close.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: clyde on August 06, 2024, 05:42:49 pm
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misinformation-immigrants-parole-biden-trump-musk-dbd634820b3f8d07b859b8a05b2b20a7 (https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misinformation-immigrants-parole-biden-trump-musk-dbd634820b3f8d07b859b8a05b2b20a7)


https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/ (https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/)


Whew, what a can of worms I've opened.  Sorry guys, we need to steer the ship away from the rocks. 


PS-Canadians are always respectful, overly so.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 06, 2024, 06:46:51 pm
oh there is no steering away from the rocks, see, Venezuela, UK, for show previews of "benefits of Socialism" and the results of replacing the indigenous population with the criminals from 3rd world nations.  Coming to a pick your western nation soon


read back through this thread "facts" are subjective, your "truth" is my tinfoil hat "truth", my TRUTH is your "misinformation"
we can agree on NOTHING.


My personal TRUTH comes from God, which coined the phase; "The folly of man..." 


welcome to the folly of man in real-time, where I came from, the banjos are already tuned,(fiddles were already used by a civilized nation in decay)  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: clyde on August 06, 2024, 06:53:10 pm
Like some amp builds, you have to start over with a clean slate and I have to admit it was rather presumptuous of me to comment like I did.  I'll just stick to asking stupid technical questions, perhaps no one will answer them from now on.   
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: rake on August 06, 2024, 08:48:07 pm
It's time for people to start voting for the ones that will do best for their family & their community
instead of blindly voting for party and race first! A turd is a turd whether it's brown or tan!
Stop voting for turds!
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: jjasilli on August 06, 2024, 09:06:17 pm

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2.  Do you really think the US has no socialism in it. 
In fact Kamala is promoting socialism
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/kamala-harris-two-socialist-proposals-crush-us-economy

BTW, socialism does not work and has been proven over and over in history


Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Willabe on August 06, 2024, 09:34:23 pm
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misinformation-immigrants-parole-biden-trump-musk-dbd634820b3f8d07b859b8a05b2b20a7 (https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misinformation-immigrants-parole-biden-trump-musk-dbd634820b3f8d07b859b8a05b2b20a7)


https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/ (https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/)

Did you read those links? It says that Biden/gov has been flying in immigrants. Said ~1million at the time of the article, March 6, 2024, so more by today's date. They cooking the books, their not counting those and the others I said in the influx numbers their giving out. So it looks like illegal immigration has gone down, but it hasn't.

And factcheck.org leans left. And even they back up a lot of what I said about Trump. All bets are off when it comes to the economy once covid hit. And the interest rate was down to ~2.5%, so you could buy a house, car, start a business. Can't do that now.

And they don't mention that they 1st post the employment numbers, then latter they give a revised number. With Biden, the revised numbers were always significantly lower than the 1st reported number. But the press/media would never mention the lowered revised numbers. Month after month they would report a higher number than what was actual. That made the economy/job market look like it was getting better than it was. Just another way they were covering for Biden. But you probably never heard of the monthly lowered revised numbers did you? That's how that works, the press covered it up for the Dem's. They did the same for Obama.     

What Trump was able to do with our economy before covid and would have continued to get stronger/better was solid.

And he was able to do that while the Dem's and media/press were hammering him, hounding him daily. They falsely impeached him twice during that time. 

PS-Canadians are always respectful, overly so.

Yeah, you keep tellin' yourself that.  :laugh:

A lot of your 1st post was disrespectful to Americans. Your definition of what's ok to say must be different than ours. You said some of that to someone in the US face to face, somebody might/would take a swing at you.  :laugh:

See the chart below? The New York Times, NPR and Washington Post, are definitely hard left, so some/all of the others in that lean left column might be hard left too.   
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 07, 2024, 02:55:20 am
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I'll just stick to asking stupid technical questions, perhaps no one will answer them from now on.   
one has nothing to do with the other.  I can "love my brother" even knowing he's being an idiot  :icon_biggrin:
A true professional will not let one color the other.


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and K Harris came through with flying colors.
:thumbsup:


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start voting for the ones that will do best for their family & their community


agreed!  the biggest guvmint should be the one where you see the politicians every day at the grocery, the BeerBaitNgas, the park with their kids.  the further "removed" a guvmint is, the smaller it should be.





Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 07, 2024, 06:07:16 am
The truckers in Canada that protested are people who were having their freedom destroyed by a tyrannical dictator type action
As we have found out the Covid source and all that mask crap were BS
So lets freeze up the peoples bank accounts because we say they have to get jabbed by something that does not even fit the definition of a vaccine.
Now the after effects of that forced jab are being felt by medical issues

You don't take free people and force them to do something like that
That's what countries like China do
I did not fall for the Covid jab crap
I felt that something was wrong with the whole situation
just common sense really.

The USA has a constitution that is a very important document that lays out the foundation
It was designed by men who saw what was happening in other countries

The first three word are "We The People"
Not we the government.
It was designed to protect the people from exactly what is happening right now
A tyrannical government that has taken on a position that it will control the people and increase it's power.

Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: johnnyreece on August 07, 2024, 08:26:28 am
Not getting into the politics of it all, but here's a handy site that reflects bias and reliability.  I know, someone's going to see something they don't agree with and say, "But who fact checks the fact checkers?" I dunno.  Just giving some information for you to do with what you will:

https://adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/

Once thing to note:  Their analyst breakdown is 19 left-leaning, 21 center, and 20 right-leaning.  When rating the news, they work in a group of three with one of each "lean" represented in the group. 
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 07, 2024, 08:45:43 am
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"But who fact checks the fact checkers?" I dunno.


as stated earlier facts are malleable, we each have our version of truth, what is needed is a common agreement of "standards" by which we operate, that used to be called the Constitution.  now 1/2 the population wants to "interpret" that based on pixie dust of the moment!


the easiest example is 2A, "Thou shall NOT infringe..." yet, there are hundreds of; except here and there and everywhere "infringements".....


i've followed every permeation of "how do we as a society get back to an agreeable set of standards" and they all lead back to "factory Reset"
not a very appealing option
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 07, 2024, 08:52:01 am
Pick any of the the news networks that used to report real news.
NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and more

These organizations are now all controlled by the left and only show people what they want them to see.
Real life examples for their non reporting of real news
The Trump assassination attempt
BTW, Google searches a few days ago would not show any results if you typed in the sentence above

You saw them with headlines like the one below and others

Trump leaves rally after loud noises erupt
Secret service rushes trump off stage after he falls at rally


Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: rake on August 07, 2024, 11:15:43 pm
The Brave search engine shows more than Google.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 08, 2024, 01:05:52 am
I get most of my links from GAB, which is the only platform i've ever been on.  also Breitbart news.


started using Brave on win-7, went on a kill google campaign with that computer, succeeded, only to have Microsoft add a disclaimer "This PC is no longer running valid software"   :laugh:


ya, I know.....fact check false, yet those 2 with a couple others seems to get me "valid" data 90% once you learn to distinguish the trolls from the journalists.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Platefire on August 08, 2024, 01:07:23 am
My news is Newsmax, the only one I trust.
https://www.newsmax.com/ (https://www.newsmax.com/)

and---if you would like world news from a Biblical prospective watch "Insight" on Sonlife
Broadcasting(SBN) that comes on 8:30 to 9:00 AM. Highly recommended by me:>)
https://www.sonlifetv.com/
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 08, 2024, 06:55:43 am
The Brave search engine shows more than Google.

yeah, I have had enough of Google's political interference and blocking searches.
I will look into that search engine
Thanks

FYI:
I see that Google just lost a major battle in court for the Monopoly it has.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/05/business/google-loses-antitrust-lawsuit-doj/index.html
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 08, 2024, 07:36:35 am
I don't want to switch browsersI use Firefox because it is most secure compared to others
I just changed my default search engine to DuckDuckGo and did a few searches to how Woke it was

Google is going to have to face the music if sanity rules again
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: rake on August 08, 2024, 09:14:40 am
You can use the Brave search engine from any browser.
Google is better for everyday lookups (who sells this and that, what are these sores on my junk, etc.)
But, all things politics & government, back up your searches somewhere else.
BTW, Duck, Duck, Blow has had some security issues.  :dontknow: :BangHead: :w2:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 08, 2024, 09:33:34 am
I saw the DDG security info after trying it
I added Brave as my default search engine'
See how that goes
Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 08, 2024, 09:35:27 am
I basically detoxed from the internet 10+ years ago


I check in here, my feed at GAB, Breitbart news, 1 hour tops in the matrix, then go play outside
repeat couple times a day no more than 20 minutes on each repeat


no i'll wander Lowes from an hour, pester my auto-parts guys for oddities I need to buy, my bullet store, the diner, the neighbors, life IS better lived in real-time  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Lectroid on August 08, 2024, 10:26:53 am
@EL34, @shooter,

No, I am not at all offended by your plain talk.  I’m just confused by your posts about the demise of America.  I don't get it.

You say that America’s in danger, and you have your list of grievances, and your certainties, but neither of you (or any other poster) explains or expands on even one of your allegations.  If you can't offer proof, why should anyone take you seriously?  You don’t connect any dots, you see? 

I really do not recognize the scary country you describe, either.  I don’t live there, not even close.  I live in bright-red rural Virginia.  Immigrants are not mass-murdering anybody here.  Most of my neighbors are conservative, farm-stock, mostly Republicans and yet somehow, we all get along.  Our streets are safe, our schools are good, our town services are great, and the taxes we pay for them are low.  None of my friends scattered around the country seem to live in that horrible place either.  Are you sure it’s not just in your imagination? 

America is doing okay. We are not a hotbed of conspiracies and secret cabals.  For the most part, we are a prosperous, healthy, educated, mobile, and tolerant culture. Not perfect, no, but good.   Violent crime has been dropping for years.  Inflation is going down, paychecks are getting bigger.  Unemployment is at 4.3%,  what economists regard as “full employment.”  Our state and national governments are not hopelessly corrupt either, from what I see.  I’ve spent time in central Mexico, and the US is a paradise of honesty compared to what I witnessed down there. 

But if you prefer doom and gloom, and want to believe the Ultimate Apocalypse is coming soon, good on you.  I never expected to change any minds here.  I just wrote in to see if you might be willing to refrain from dumbass name-calling like eight-year olds.  And I got my answer:  a resounding “No!”  One post claimed such insults were fully justified because … wait for it … the danger to America is too dire for any less scathing a response

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Sorry, this is too importantThis country is in real danger. 

Tentative translation:  “Name-calling is okay because the Democrats are so scary.”   Have I got that right?

Okay I can take a hint, my posts aren’t welcome here.  I’ll go back to the amp boards and leave y’all in peace.


God Bless America.



Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 08, 2024, 10:29:23 am
Well, the issue may be that you are not getting the info?
Are you not aware of all the crap that has been happening?
Here's just a few things

Restricting free speech on social networks. Twitter, Facebook, etc.
Deleting anything to do with the COVID
Deleting Trump postings regarding the 2020 race
Google and Facebook are still up to this in 2024

Constant attacks to disarm citizens. Second amendment and First amendment attacks.

Illegal immigration nightmare. Trying to get them to vote. Over 8 million illegal immigrants and the crime they are causing.

Not to mention all the left wing crap like children can transgender, Puberty blockers, Porn content in the books in school libraries.
Jan 6 FBI plants in the crowds and stiring up hate before that on forums
Prosecuting political opponents
De funding the police
All the crap going on in dem cities, San Francisco, New York, Chicago,
Letting criminals and illegal immigrants go after they have been arrested
Anti Israel pro Hamas demonstrations
Shop lifting crimes are no longer a crimes
Letting convicted criminals go and not prosecuting the crimes they have committed.
The COVID cover up.
Biden nominees refusing to answer questions when called into congress

Now we have the complete failure of the Secret Service and possibly doing that on purpose.

Biden is not who is running the show. Obama and other Democrats are really in control.

The Democrat party is not the same party as my Dads party. They have become power hungry, socialist for the most part.
Hiring people based on race and sex and all this other DEI crap.

The list is longer than this and I will add to it.
Anyone who votes for the Dem party must be watching the main stream media that is not giving them all the info
I hope people wake up and vote to get rid of this current mess
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: Platefire on August 08, 2024, 11:42:12 am
That's just the trouble, half the people(or more) in this country don't know what's going on and when they do watch the news it's the Fake news.It's my continual Prayer that the people in this country would WAKE UP instead of being woke!
 
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 08, 2024, 11:45:42 am
That's just the trouble, half the people(or more) in this country don't know what's going on and when they do watch the news it's the Fake news.It's my continual Prayer that the people in this country would WAKE UP instead of being woke!

I am with you Plate!
TDS has infected many people because of the fake news
(Trump Derangement Syndrome) for those not familiar with TDS
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 08, 2024, 01:15:50 pm
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my posts aren’t welcome here.


they ARE welcome here, that's the point, we each "see" our part of the elephant in the room, as individuals it's not really an elephant, put ALL the descriptions together, tweak "Your perceived" view as thing get clearer, walla, the big picture


READ through Doug's list, they are happening, but if you don't walk over to Doug's part of the elephant, you'll never see of understand.


life here on my 4 acre piece of dirt is near perfect, but once I look at the anomalies in Hamtramck (near Detroit) I find a "nation" that isn't American, doesn't want to be American and is doing everything it can to "convert" America to it's view.  When I look at Ann Arbor, I see normal kids going into college and radical kids graduating with zero math n science skills, it's all ideological, you can't make next next amazing widged with those skill sets, you can only "disrupt" a proven once great innovative system.  it's like making the wheel square because round is just so "ol school", matters not the usefulness, simply "we now have the power" so deal with square wheels attitude.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 09, 2024, 05:36:50 pm
some of you probably watch already, worth the 15minutes, especially if you stand firm on 1A, 2A 4A, 5A...........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KU9eKzlqP0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KU9eKzlqP0)


[color=var(--color_brand)]https://www.[/color] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KU9eKzlqP0)
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 10, 2024, 05:56:11 am
I like Tulsi
Just another example of the out of control government BS that must be stopped
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 10, 2024, 06:30:28 am
there in lies the problem, those folk at the TSA, they ain't elected, they're buried deep inside the other 10 million+ non-elected guvmint.
to expect a politician n his "personal staff" to root out those that have their own best interests at heart is a tall order.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 10, 2024, 07:15:09 am
If enough people stand up and push back, you can change things

That or people just sit by, do nothing and let their rights be infringed upon until they find themselves in a non free society.

I choose to try and vote out the leftist socialist non sense and hope we can turn this ship around.



Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 10, 2024, 08:45:16 am
just voted in the local dog-catcher elections on Tuesday, Country elections, Was the 78th voter at 2pm, polls opened at 8am


on the up-side, i zeroed in my scopes yesterday, even managed a pretty good 3 foot pattern, open sight, .22LR pistol at 60 yards  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 11, 2024, 06:20:52 am
some of you probably watch already, worth the 15minutes, especially if you stand firm on 1A, 2A 4A, 5A...........

Now Tulsi has been put on a terrorist watch list
This is just one example of how the leftist government has over stepped



Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 11, 2024, 10:56:41 am
read what they have designated her as on her airline tickets
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Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 11, 2024, 11:49:47 am
makes me think of JJ's vid of CA red-flag laws coming to bite you in TX(?), wonder if she's tried to buy a weapon lately??


If they can do it to her, they can do it to anyone, I saved them the trouble, after 9/11 I flew twice in a month, both times the TSA dweebs pulled me from a line of hundreds for "extra scrutiny"  Threatened to handcuff n jail me for voicing my opinion of the treatment.


Never flew again, never will.


but on a happy note, they fly hundreds of thousands of criminal aliens to cities n towns near you, no TSA required.
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 11, 2024, 12:18:31 pm
They flagged Tulsi's husband also which is even crazier
Do you remember when Hillary Clinton was accusing Trump of Russian collusion?

"Hillary Clinton was behind the entire Russian collusion hoax."

She also tried accusing Tulsi of the same thing.
These democrats have lost their minds.



Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: shooter on August 11, 2024, 02:51:23 pm
my 1st thought was Trump might be using her as a liaison between him n Putin to stave off WWIII since the war-mongers in this current administration seem to be hell-bent on pushing it.


Putin even warned the idiots of DC; "IF you send advanced weapons to the pedo-boy of Ukraine, I will give the same weapons to your enemy's"  and now IRAN has some pretty wicked weapons


The idiots of DC will find out real fast, blue-collar guys, farm boys, will NOT be going to fight for these DC idiots this time
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: rake on August 11, 2024, 05:52:43 pm
Sorry, this is too importantThis country is in real danger

The progressives have ruined states like California, New York and othersNot to mention weaponizing the FBI, ATF and other government organizations.
Free speech is being violated
They are coming after your other rights like the 2nd amendment.
Children being indoctrinated with this insane LGBQ xyz insanity

Schools are indoctrinating young people like the idiots at Hamas rallies.
Not to mention the totally illegal southern border issue with millions of illegal aliens that have crossed

People have had enough of all this non sense
You think Kamala Harris is a legit candidate for presidency?
People voted for Joe Biden, not Kamala Harris
Dem convention is supposed to pick the candidate, not Obama

The so called news has been bought out and no longer gives people the facts, only propaganda.
It's best that you not read any more of this if you are offended.
This is too important

It's kind of hard to ignore that, as her former boss Willie Brown publicly stated, that her career started between his two knees! His words. Then view
the interview with Mr. Brown's estranged wife! Fact checkers be damned. Biden declared her his Border Czar on national TV! BTW, when Biden was
VP, he went to Europe!!!! Personally I do not feel comfortable with Her having the nuclear codes! How many Liberals have worked without pay?
If a politician is "getting rich" as a public servant, they are "STEALING YOUR MONEY"! Why do you think the prices of everything goes up when the
Dems take office? Taxes go up with prices. Remember 7% of $1.00 is only $.07 but 7% of $1,000,000.00 is $70,000.00

Remember, the government doesn't pay for the "free lunches", we the people do.

Government is like a bad wife. All they do is spend your money and give you grief!
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 23, 2024, 07:50:22 am
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Socialism is such a dirty word in the US, but a little wouldn't hurt, perhaps giving universal healthcare to everyone
Sounds great
Where does the money come from?
Print more money?
Add trillions more to our debt?
Make the dollar worth even less than it is now which is what inflation is.
Socialism does not work and it has been proven many times in history

Here's a couple of Kamala's socialist ideas
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/kamala-harris-two-socialist-proposals-crush-us-economy
Title: Re: Great AD that lays it all out nicely
Post by: EL34 on August 23, 2024, 08:55:52 am
Here's another brainless socialist
Hard to believe people in NY voted for this idiot

AOC -  Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez