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Title: Hum in 5E3
Post by: FREYES_7 on August 27, 2025, 09:38:57 pm
Hello All,

I built a 5F1 from scratch and it sounds fine hehe

Now I tried a 5E3 from a mojo kit and it is hummy,

Any recommendations to decrease the hum?





Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: tubeswell on August 27, 2025, 11:02:37 pm
Improve the grounding


https://valvewizard.co.uk/Grounding.html (https://valvewizard.co.uk/Grounding.html)
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: FREYES_7 on August 28, 2025, 06:10:41 am
Improve the grounding


https://valvewizard.co.uk/Grounding.html (https://valvewizard.co.uk/Grounding.html)

Thanks for the wisdom, merlin is the goat
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: JPK on August 28, 2025, 08:01:07 am
Can you post some pics? Post layout. I built one of these. Totally silent. Boothill kit.
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: tubeswell on August 28, 2025, 06:05:21 pm
Improve the grounding


https://valvewizard.co.uk/Grounding.html (https://valvewizard.co.uk/Grounding.html)

Thanks for the wisdom, merlin is the goat


If it’s already said well by someone, why bother regurgitating it ad nauseum in forums every time someone raises a problem about it? Simpler just to reference the existing excellent work with a handy link.
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: dogburn on August 28, 2025, 06:32:18 pm
Where are your two 100 ohm resistors for the heater wires? They should be coming off of the pilot light and going to ground.
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: dogburn on August 29, 2025, 12:17:17 pm
It's hard to see without close up pics of the chassis & board, but at least from the video, it looked like the resistors (i.e., the artificial center tap for the heater wires) were missing - that could be a big source of your hum.
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: FREYES_7 on August 30, 2025, 11:39:33 am
Indeed thank you very much!

I fixed the earth connections a little bit like in rob robinette's page,

All the pre to normal lo jack's earth

All the power to the same earth connections as well,

The only difference is as I soldered the pots lug to its back, I did not dare to unsolder them, so I don't ruin the pot.  When they are at max the start to hiss so I guess I'll get new pots and solder their lugs to the same pre earth bar, as rob suggests

For home volume levels, the amp noise floor reduced dramatically hehe

I'll mod this kit until it falls apart  :laugh:

Improve the grounding


https://valvewizard.co.uk/Grounding.html (https://valvewizard.co.uk/Grounding.html)

Thanks for the wisdom, merlin is the goat


If it’s already said well by someone, why bother regurgitating it ad nauseum in forums every time someone raises a problem about it? Simpler just to reference the existing excellent work with a handy link.
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: FREYES_7 on August 30, 2025, 11:53:07 am
Thanks! The PT has 6.3 center tap

Where are your two 100 ohm resistors for the heater wires? They should be coming off of the pilot light and going to ground.
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: FREYES_7 on August 30, 2025, 11:58:18 am
Got so much hate by doing this last time  :laugh:

Please if anyone has anything to say about my soldering skills, feel free to do so in any form, just let me also know how to improve, this is my second build ever and started learning how to solder just to build amps,

I do have solid theorical knowledge about electricity, so don't fear for my dear life neither, don't know much about amps, but I do know where not to put my hands and to discharge caps

https://imgur.com/gallery/IO1pnLW

Can you post some pics? Post layout. I built one of these. Totally silent. Boothill kit.
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: tubeswell on August 30, 2025, 01:04:43 pm
The vids you posted aren’t hi-res enough to inspect the soldering on-line.


A ‘2-point ground’ usually works well enough for a simple amp like a 5E3, but it also depends on the type of steel the chassis is made of and how good your chassis ground connections are (as well as all the other stuff like your soldering skills ;-) ). The galactic ground scheme in Merlin’s article is a great scheme because it side-steps the variable of poorly founded bit of sheet steel. Not saying the chassis you have used isn’t up to the task - but also not assuming that it is.


But obviously there is some ground hum from what you posted. I’d say there is also hum from one or more other sources. But you could try reducing the ground hum first, and the troubleshoot the other stuff through a process of elimination.
Title: Re: Hum in 5E3
Post by: mresistor on September 01, 2025, 02:33:58 pm
Hi. If you think it's 60hz hum sometimes a tube can cause hum.