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Title: (Almost done!) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 01, 2025, 11:16:13 am
Hey everyone,
Starting up a new Princeton build and thought I’d start a log to document the process. I’ll be working on it a couple hours at a time, so this one’s going to come together slowly — but I’m excited to dig in.
First off, I finally built my own amp cradle for this project. I’m honestly surprised I hadn’t done that sooner — what a game changer! Got the chassis and laid out the board today. Probably hard to decipher my board layout but I think it should be fine. 
I already started a thread about the grounding scheme here if anyone wants to follow that part of the discussion:


https://el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=33091.0 (https://el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=33091.0)
More updates soon!
Title: Re: New Princeton Build Log — Here We Go! Ask questions it helps :-)
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 01, 2025, 11:34:30 am
I tape my layout onto I think its called G10 fiberglass board for the drilling process.  I will use turrets and mostly eyelets.  I start with the red mounting spots first and then cover them so I know they are done due to the different hole size.  Then to the turrets same due to the different size and then the rest of the holes for the eyelets.  I don't know how others do this parts so I'm just sharing. 
Title: Re: New Princeton Build Log — Here We Go! Ask questions it helps :-)
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 01, 2025, 12:54:26 pm
Last one of the day... board built.  Two drill presses are nice one for holes and the other for staking (is that how you spell it?).  I also got the holes lined up in the chassis too. 
Title: Re: New Princeton Build Log — Here We Go! Ask questions it helps :-)
Post by: SEL49 on November 01, 2025, 01:56:40 pm
What is the purpose of the two long slots (seem to be about 3/8") in the board? Also, the single 3/8" hole?
Title: Re: New Princeton Build Log — Here We Go! Ask questions it helps :-)
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 01, 2025, 02:38:36 pm

What is the purpose of the two long slots (seem to be about 3/8") in the board? Also, the single 3/8" hole?

I just like wires to go under the board but I'm always scared I'm going to make a mistake or want to move something so I'm trying a under the board through the hole and to the eyelet method.  Don't know how its going to work out.  Never tried it before like this... I have done small holes and through the board to the eyelet like the picture below. 
Title: Re: New Princeton Build Log. Populating the board.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 04, 2025, 12:26:50 am
Put the grounding bus's in and starting to populate the board.
Title: Re: New Princeton Build Log. Populating the board.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 11, 2025, 05:13:19 pm
Here is my mostly populated board and the heaters wired up.  Also here is the schematic I'm using as well as the grounding scheme.  Is it ok to use the bus wire at the power end of the board for all the GA grounds from the schematic and then wire one wire with a ring terminal to chassis?


Note: I did see that I wired my heaters to pin 6 not pin 7 of my power tube sockets... I will fix that right away :-)
Title: Re: (Transformer and Grounding Question) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 12, 2025, 05:19:59 pm
I got a Heyboer PT that has two 120vac taps for the primary.  Do I wire them in parallel or just use one of them?  Also if anyone has a minute any suggestions on the grounding question in the previous post?  Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: (Transformer and Grounding Question) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: tubeswell on November 13, 2025, 03:53:55 am
I got a Heyboer PT that has two 120vac taps for the primary.  Do I wire them in parallel or just use one of them?!


You can absolutely wire both primaries in parallel if they are each the same number of turns, and if they are wired in-phase.
Title: Re: (Transformer and Grounding Question) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 13, 2025, 07:47:28 am
You can absolutely wire both primaries in parallel if they are each the same number of turns, and if they are wired in-phase.


Sounds good... I will ask to make sure that is the case and the wire it up!
Title: Re: New Princeton Build Log. Populating the board.
Post by: pdf64 on November 13, 2025, 08:03:29 am
Here is my mostly populated board and the heaters wired up.  Also here is the schematic I'm using as well as the grounding scheme.  Is it ok to use the bus wire at the power end of the board for all the GA grounds from the schematic and then wire one wire with a ring terminal to chassis?  ....
It would probably work out ok, but it may not be ideal, would be contrary to Merlin's' multiple star grounding suggestion.

Connect the HT winding CT to GA. Then GA to GB.
Connect all other GAs to GB rather than GA.
Then GB to GC.
Then GC to GD.

Ideally just one connection between circuit ground and the amp chassis, at or near the input sockets.
Title: Re: (Transformer and Grounding Question) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 13, 2025, 05:47:18 pm

You can absolutely wire both primaries in parallel if they are each the same number of turns, and if they are wired in-phase.


Yep talked with Heyboer and they said in phase and same turns :-)
Title: Re: New Princeton Build Log. Populating the board.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 13, 2025, 05:50:24 pm
It would probably work out ok, but it may not be ideal, would be contrary to Merlin's' multiple star grounding suggestion.

Connect the HT winding CT to GA. Then GA to GB.
Connect all other GAs to GB rather than GA.
Then GB to GC.
Then GC to GD.

Ideally just one connection between circuit ground and the amp chassis, at or near the input sockets.


I'm going to have to study merlin's article again.  I thought I was using his method.  I will go back over everything and check with your ideas above.   
Title: Re: (Transformer and Grounding Question) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 14, 2025, 12:33:58 am
Installed the PT and tacked in the OT to do the hum listening test.  There is substantially less hum with the OT further away from the PT.  The angle effects the hum a little but mostly just distance.  It just keeps getting quieter as you move it away from the PT... how far would you go? Any issue with the OT being under V3 or even V2?
Title: Re: (Almost done!) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 30, 2025, 01:44:23 pm
Placed the tranformer and did a bunch of work over the holiday weekend.  Happy Thanksgiving :-)
Hope to trace the circuit and make sure I did not make any mistakes and fire it up soon! 
Title: Re: (Almost done!) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 30, 2025, 01:45:36 pm
Here are more pictures.
Title: Re: (Almost done!) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: dogburn on November 30, 2025, 04:45:22 pm
Looking great. But what is up with the brown and blue OT primary wires going to the power tube sockets? Looks like you added extensions to them instead of directly connecting them to the pins?
Title: Re: (Almost done!) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on November 30, 2025, 08:03:00 pm
Looking great. But what is up with the brown and blue OT primary wires going to the power tube sockets? Looks like you added extensions to them instead of directly connecting them to the pins?


Thanks! And good eye on the OT primaries. The leads weren’t quite long enough to reach the sockets cleanly, and I’ve definitely guessed wrong on the phase before, so I kept them twisted and added short extensions. Once I confirm the phase is correct, I’ll trim them to final length. It should work fine for now, but I appreciate it... I need all the help i can get :-)
Title: Re: (Almost done!) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: dogburn on December 01, 2025, 09:14:18 am
I thought that running out of length might be the case (plus mine always seem to be wired backwards at first). Do the extension wires match the gauge of the OT wires? They seem a bit thin.
Title: Re: (Almost done!) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on December 01, 2025, 09:31:45 am
They are 18ga solid core Teflon coated.  I actually don't know what the original gauge of the transformer are but I would think 18ga would be OK?
Title: Re: (Almost done!) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: burchyk on December 16, 2025, 04:31:27 pm
Looks like the plate and the grid on V1b are mixed up? On the other side of that coax, it is supposed to go to the wiper, not the top of the pot.
Title: Re: (Almost done!) New Princeton Build Log.
Post by: ToneJunkie on January 15, 2026, 07:20:30 am
Looks like the plate and the grid on V1b are mixed up? On the other side of that coax, it is supposed to go to the wiper, not the top of the pot.


Caught that before I turned it on! Good catch. 


The cabinet is being made my Mojo and should be here in February.  I will get it all boxed up and make a playing video then and the mission will be complete!