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Title: Unmarked tubes ????12a?7
Post by: rafe on December 10, 2025, 08:07:36 am
I come across tubes from time to time that have little or no markings left on them I am mostly interested in the ones that appear to be 12a*7's or 6l6's ...Is there any way to visibly ID them.....or test them I have a decent tube tester but it seems that it wouldent be much help..........any insight on this will be greatly appreciated What do "YOU" do :worthy1:
Title: Re: Unmarked tubes ????12a?7
Post by: shooter on December 10, 2025, 09:28:15 am
from someone, somewhere; put them in the freezer for ~~~ 30min, have a magnifying glass handy, pull it out look were the "labels" usually are.
Title: Re: Unmarked tubes ????12a?7
Post by: rafe on December 10, 2025, 09:39:33 am
from someone, somewhere; put them in the freezer for ~~~ 30min, have a magnifying glass handy, pull it out look were the "labels" usually are.

It's worth a try, thanks
Title: Re: Unmarked tubes ????12a?7
Post by: Platefire on December 10, 2025, 10:34:54 am
Let us know if it works, I have the same issue with some of my tubes
Title: Re: Unmarked tubes ????12a?7
Post by: bmccowan on December 10, 2025, 11:15:00 am
I have had some luck with using an LED flashlight shined at an angle to the glass surface. I have no idea why this works, nor do I remember where I learned this. Might be fun to try that along with the freezer thing.
Also, I do think its possible to visually identify the structure of tubes and get pretty close. Power tubes are pretty easy, unless they are smoke glass tubes, and preamp tubes you can usually first identify that its in the 12__7 class dual triode and go from there. Comparing to known tubes is the key, of course.
Title: Re: Unmarked tubes ????12a?7
Post by: stratomaster on December 10, 2025, 11:47:31 am
You can always put them into an amp against a known reference. Run a 100mV signal into the amp and measure the AC voltage at the grid and plate.  Divide the two numbers to get the amplification factor.  If you have a few known good tubes then you can compare the amplification to get a better idea of what type of tube it is.
Title: Re: Unmarked tubes ????12a?7
Post by: rafe on December 11, 2025, 10:39:13 pm
I have 5 in the house that I checked one is marked 4 are still unknown but I'm pretty sure they are from Super reverb or tried in it. So 4 are 12a  x,u,t,y  7's or 5751..... maybe Ill try them in my 60 ga-5 and see how the perform and compare them ......I have lots more out in the shop most are marked but lots are not.......
Title: Re: Unmarked tubes ????12a?7
Post by: Platefire on December 12, 2025, 05:10:02 pm
I tried the LED Flashlight. It made it some easier to make out where some of the inscription still remained but where all was completely gone, it didn't help. I didn't try the freezer trick