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Title: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 12, 2009, 04:59:37 am
Things are growing at an amazing rate right now.
Been eating fresh raspberries and blueberries every day now since about the first week in June
Ate the first crop of sugar snap peas last weekend.
Been eating 4 kinds of Lettuce and green onions for a while now.
Squash is starting to fruit.

I planted Soy beans this year. Never have grown them before. Love those green Edemame soy beans.

Lots more pics here
http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Garden.htm

(http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Images/IMG_1349_small.jpg)
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: sluckey on June 12, 2009, 07:47:53 am
Very nice and neatly arranged. I see a lot of pretty gardens up in your area. Here's a flatlander garden. Looking at snap beans. Tomatoes, squash, and cucumbers are off to the left. Snap beans are gone now and replanted with Zipper peas. The seeds are just breaking the ground this morning.

Gonna be in Sapphire Valley near Cashiers next week.

(http://home.comcast.net/~seluckey/garden_05-14-09.jpg)
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 12, 2009, 08:51:04 am
Man, that's a pretty garden. 
Wish I had that much space here :crybaby2:

I keep expanding every year, but it's a ton of work just to get another 12' x 18" raised bed.  :laugh:

keep posting em, love garden pics!
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 13, 2009, 09:46:45 am
This mornings picks

Been eating fresh raspberries and blueberries for a couple weeks now.
Yum

(http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Images/IMG_1422.jpg)
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 13, 2009, 09:54:27 am
Also picked a bunch of sugar snap peas today

(http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Images/IMG_1423.jpg)
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on June 13, 2009, 01:58:56 pm
Doug,

Man, those veggies and berries look delicious!!!  Very nice!  My blue berry bushes are still pretty small.

Are you growing those super good small tomatoes this yr?  I think that tomatoe you turned me on to was about the best tasting I've ever had.  There's a older gentleman lives close to me that has an incredible garden and sells excellent tomatoes. Think I'm gonna see if I can get some green ones from him and make green fried tomatoes this year.

We grow a few tomatoes and peppers but that's about it.

With respect, Jeff

Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 14, 2009, 08:14:59 am
yes, it is nice to walk out and eat fresh stuff right off the plant.

The raspberries are only a year old, and they are huge already.
The Bluberry buches are almost 2 years old and starting to put out a decent qantity of berries.

I am growning those Golden Gem tomatoes again this year.
They have little green one on the vine right now. Looking fowrad to those getting ripe for sure.

see ya
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on June 15, 2009, 08:43:38 am
I think the Golden Gem was the one I tried. Man, that was a good tomatoe! I'm gonna have to remember that one and try growing those.

My blueberry bushes are about two years old. I'm still not getting enough blueberries to make a decent cobbler yet.  Maybe enough for some blueberry pancakes or muffins but that's about it.  I have them in full sun (6hrs or more) but haven't fertilized them enough I guess?

Jeff

Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 15, 2009, 08:49:00 am
That picture above is the most I have picked at one time.
I usually just eat them right off the bush.

I think the bushes have to get way bigger to get a bunch of berries.
Also, early in the spring I fertilize the bushes with Holly Tone, the Azaelea type fertilizer you see everywhere.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: Bassmanster on June 16, 2009, 09:05:27 am
Wow, great!

Stuff seems to grow in NC.  My uncle always had corn and taters behind his house in Bryson City.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 25, 2009, 10:26:25 am
Todays harvest.
first squash of the season.
Been eating lots of raspberries for a few weeks now.

(http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Images/IMG_1437.jpg)
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on June 25, 2009, 01:25:13 pm
Man, those look fantastic!!!  YUM  We eat squash probably at least twice a wk usually just lightly steamed and still firm.

However, I do have a great fried zuchinni recipe (for those who do fried stuff). Cut zucchinni in finger size strips. Dip in battered egg. Then dip in a 50/50 mixture of Italian bread crumbs and shredded parmesan cheese. Press the breading/cheese on to the strips gently.  I've also cut the zucchini across into circles. You can also use a mixture of Italian bread crumbs with Panko bread crumbs.

Cook in a skillet (not deep fryer) using about a 1/2" or less of olive oil.  The oil should be very hot. Fry about 30 sec a side until golden brown. Don't overcook.
The zucchini should still be very firm. The outside is simply golden browned and crunchy.

Mix horseradish sauce (60%)  with horseradish mustard (this is a mustard sauce with horseradish & spices) 20% and with sundried tomatoe mustard 20%.  Dip the zucchini strips in that or you can use Ranch dressing which isn't as good.

However, you do your squash, I hope you enjoy them?  More zucchini bread perhaps?
 :grin:

Your gardening is paying off.  Looking really good!

  With respect, Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 25, 2009, 01:29:30 pm
You are making me hungry again.  :laugh:

I hand all the squash over to Ginny and she does her magic with it.
I get to eat whatever she makes and it is always great.

I don't really cook, unless you call steaming veggies and eating them crisp and as close to raw as possible, cooking.  :smiley:
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on June 25, 2009, 01:56:28 pm
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eating them crisp and as close to raw as possible

Yes, I think that tastes the best, IMO!  I don't like mushy veggies.

My wife is actually the better cook of the two of us, I tend to do a little more of the cooking though. She makes incredible zucchini bread which I love.

I'd say the two of you make a great team ........ you grow em ........ she cooks em ......... you eat em!   Hard to beat that.   :wink:

The squash looks magnificent.

Jeff 
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: panhead on June 26, 2009, 11:44:07 am
I started my first veggie garden a couple months ago. It was my wife's idea, but it always seems to work out that I end up doing all the work. Planted tomatos, carrots, cukes, basil, and radishes. The garden isn't very big. We've only had about five days of sunshine so far in the month of June here in Southern New England, so my tomato plants have gotten pretty big, but have just begun to flower. The radishes have come up like crazy, but I think you could grow radishes on the moon. I definitely have a lot to learn about growing veggies. I've gotten a few tips from a local old timer farmer who talks like Gabby Hayes from "Blazing Saddles", but usually he's loaded and I really can't understand what he's saying.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 26, 2009, 11:46:10 am
Revvvvvrend!!!!!!!!!!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: Frankenamp on June 27, 2009, 05:43:40 pm


I'd say the two of you make a great team ........ you grow em ........ she cooks em ......... you eat em!   Hard to beat that.   :wink:


Jeff 

This year I didn't wait for SWMBO to dictate the garden, I saw a Burpee display and got a supply of Peas, Beans, & Corn  at Wally World (should have only got one pack each- but used to the cheap crap that SHE finds at Wallgreens- half dozen seeds each, and half don't sprout). Planted 3 rows of corn -compact spacing (small garden) 2 half rows of Peas, and a half row of beans Beans dinna come up very well, but the volanteer beans from last year have jumped up like the devil (got'em climbin posts already) So far only  one of last years heritage tomatoes has sprung up (from between a couple of bricks lining the bed) and is growing to beat the band. Kinda hard to water it . The corn is about a foot tall (and I 'spect it to grow another foot this weekend- heatwave weather) Yesteday while weeding the corn of the insidious redroot and other weeds I found where the volanteer tomatoes were hiding, so I'll transplant a few. SWMBO saw some potted vegies at the discount store, so I found some squash and a likely looking 'mater (before I found the volanteers), and a couple of decent looking strawberries. That all went in the ground last weekend, watered real good, even threw some water on the artichoke thistle (for SWMBO)... well shoulda known better, now I got volanteer squarsh and watermelon aplenty!  well, I think that it's squash- but it could be a volanteer canteloupe... Now I gotta plant something up front before the poppies take over and choke everthing else out...


I grow, I cook, she eats, ...and the stepdaughter turns up her nose... (progress- after 5 years she fnally puts dressing on her salad had eats an occasional veggie without too much protest, but at 23 there ain't much else I can do)
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 30, 2009, 08:20:54 am
Picked the first batch of green beans this past weekend
5.75 pounds

We stashed most of them in the freezer and ate some too.
I love eating stuff from my garden in January!

(http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Images/greenbean.jpg)
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: sluckey on July 02, 2009, 11:25:39 am
Fresh green beans (we call them snap beans) is one of my favorite dishes. I usually do snaps early and pick in May. We canned (put up in jars) 36 quarts of snap beans back in May and still had plenty to eat fresh and share with the neighbors. I like planting "Contender" bush beans. Never got into doing poles or strings for the running vine types. Which kind of bean did you plant?

Don't know how you cook yours but I'd like to suggest a simple deep South recipe. Snap the ends off your beans and discard the ends. Now snap the beans into approximately 2 inch long pieces. Put beans in a boiling pot. Add a generous amount of small red potatoes (also called new potatoes). Leave the skins on the potatoes. Cover the beans and taters with water. Add a stick of real butter and a little salt. Bring pot to a boil and cut the heat back to a slow rolling boil. Cook for about 30 minutes. You won't be disappointed. Snap beans and new potatoes compliment the taste of each other very well.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on July 02, 2009, 11:32:58 am
Hey Steve,
I always plant blue lake bush beans.
They just keep producing huge batches every week for a long time.

I just picked those 5.75 pounds last saturday and alreay there is another big batch ready to pick.

here's how I stash them:

I blanch them in boiling water for 3 minutes.
Dump them into ice water for about a minute to stop the blanching.
They are still very crisp after they are blanched and cooloed down.
They get divided up into meal sizes portions.
Then we vacuum seal them and put them in the freezer.
They are remarkebly fresh tasting in the middle of winter after coming out of the freezer.

That recipe sounds good, have to show it to Ginny.
I usually just steam them for a couple minutes, add a bit of real butter, dump some fresh parmesean cheese on them and eat em.

I do things real simple.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: sluckey on July 02, 2009, 11:58:54 am
I've used the Blue Lake beans too. B/L and Contenders grow and yield about the same and look alike. Don't really have a reason for preferring the Contenders other than that's what Daddy liked.

We've put beans in the freezer using a very similar process. I like the taste of the frozen beans better. Carol likes the beans in the jar better though. When the beans come out of the jar they are practically cooked, so prep time is quick. I think she just likes the quick idea, and since she teaches 1st grade, I just say yes m'am, Mrs. Luckey.

We also just got thru making 35 pints of hot salsa. We usually make a party out of that process. Lot's of beer and wine and a lot of chip dipping and experimenting with the peppers until we like the taste.

Zipper peas are coming along, but it's been so hot and dry the last three weeks that we've been replanting. Finally got a good stand. Maybe we'll soon get into our summer T-storm pattern to cool things down a bit.

I looked at all your garden pics. I love the way those hillside gardens look. I can appreciate the kind of work it took to carve that garden into the side of that mountain.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on July 02, 2009, 12:16:33 pm
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I can appreciate the kind of work it took to carve that garden into the side of that mountain.

Oh man, that new trellis I cut into the hillside about killed me.

Right now, the Golden Gem tomatoes, Juliet tomatoes and Cucumbers are all over that trellis.
It's 12' tall, but those plants will go way over the top and then come back down at a angle and run along the top of the trellis.
I'd say the tomatoes and cuc plants are easily 16' long when they peak.

The first large Diva cuc's are ready to pick now.
I just throw em in the fridge and eat them raw with a little salt.

Ginny makes great cucumber slads also.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: panhead on July 02, 2009, 02:27:00 pm
Well, it's still raining here in the Northeast. Rain everyday for over a month, with another week of steady rain forcast. My garden is shot.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on July 02, 2009, 02:31:15 pm
We had a real rainy spring here, but it has been dry for a couple weeks now.

Now I want more rain so I don't have to hand water the veggies
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: mackie2 on July 02, 2009, 04:09:41 pm
When I was a kid in Maggie Valley, N.C.we had pole beans cooked
with corn, boiled potatoes and country ham--CORN BREAD.

Mackie2
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on July 02, 2009, 04:20:36 pm
Ginny makes the best corn bread I have ever had.

She uses real corn meal of course and she puts real corn in the mix.
It's dense and chewy with just the right amount of sweetness.

I love corn bread!
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: supro66 on July 09, 2009, 10:13:41 am
Ginny makes the best corn bread I have ever had.

She uses real corn meal of course and she puts real corn in the mix.
It's dense and chewy with just the right amount of sweetness.

I love corn bread!

I went to a Cracker Barrel once

I got Chicken and Dumplings and Corn Bread

The Dumplings were square pieces of dough
The cedar saw dust in my shop tasted better than their Corn Bread
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: Rich on July 26, 2009, 07:41:13 pm
Here it is 26 July and finally I see a bit of color in the raspberry patch and I added my first zucchini to the salad.

So much for global warming!

I brought in some garlic but the main crop will be a few weeks yet.

Location 48 degrees 27'54.32"N 89 degrees 41.64"W about 40 miles north of the border.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: jjasilli on July 28, 2009, 10:25:29 am
Great stuff guys.  I live in a Brooklyn, NY, brownstone.  My backyard faces north and gets only limited sunlight.  Just got a bit into flower gardening with my wife; and some houseplants.  I think the only way for me to have a vegitable garden would be use contaioners on the flat roof.  This raises issues of loadbearing; water supply and possibly auto misting. 
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on July 28, 2009, 10:30:27 am
Man, the season must be a short one in Canada.

When I lived in FL, I used to start my garden in Feb.
Here in NC mothers day is kind of the official last frost day
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: drew on July 28, 2009, 09:52:11 pm
Great stuff guys.  I live in a Brooklyn, NY, brownstone.  My backyard faces north and gets only limited sunlight.  Just got a bit into flower gardening with my wife; and some houseplants.  I think the only way for me to have a vegitable garden would be use contaioners on the flat roof.  This raises issues of loadbearing; water supply and possibly auto misting. 

Try a salad table or two up on the roof:  http://mastergardener.umd.edu/GardeningTopics/ContVegeGardening/SaladTables/SaladTable2006Report.cfm

Plans:  http://mastergardener.umd.edu/GardeningTopics/ContVegeGardening/SaladTables/SaladGardeningv2.pdf

I built one and had pretty good results.  It tends to dry out fast if you don't water daily, but since you're back east and get at least some rain in the summer, it might not be such an issue.

The garden stores on the web also sell self-watering containers like this: http://www.gardeners.com/Organic-Tomato-Success-Kit/37-852RS,default,pd.html  that you can use for plants that have deeper roots, like tomatoes.  They're expensive for what they are (i.e., a plastic pot that sits in a plastic tray, and various accessory doo-dads), but they also work well.  I have one going now with some peppers, and the plants are bigger than any of the ones I've ever tried to grow in the ground.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: jjasilli on July 29, 2009, 07:29:20 am
Thanks Drew.  Great suggestions.  The salad table seems do-able and good way to start.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on August 08, 2009, 09:01:47 am
Hey Doug!

That great tasting tomatoe that you turned me on to (best I've ever eaten) ................. was it like the small tomatoes in this picture.  They're kind of golden color?

I see these at the Farmer's Market this morning and bought them. They are VERY sweet tasting and delicious to me.
My wife is a Kansas farm girl and knows good produce and she commented "these are so good they're almost addictive".

Here it is not even lunch time yet & each time I pass by the kitchen, I'm woofing another one down. And the interesting part is I cook with large tomatoes but don't eat them by themselves.

Think it's possibly the same tomatoe?  It was advertised as some type of grape tomatoe?

The poblano sized peppers behind them are actually Cubanellos & are supposed to be less hot and sweeter. So I'm gonna cook the chicken poblano pepper recipe tonight with these along with sweet corn on the cob and fried green tomatoes (big tomatoes)

Yum!  Can't wait!

With respect, Jeff  (Tubenit)
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on August 08, 2009, 12:33:11 pm
Hard to say, could be the same one.

This is the seed I grow mine with
http://www.parkseed.com/gardening/PD/5409/

They are called Golden Gem.
They have about 10% more sugar than other tomatoes.

I've been eating them every day like candy here for the last month
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on August 08, 2009, 01:09:28 pm
Doug,

Hey, that's great info!!!  I'll bet their the same or at least similar.  Super sweet and flavorful.

I'm gonna remember that and plant some next year.

THANKS, Jeff
Title: Golden Gem Tomatoes
Post by: tubenit on April 11, 2010, 03:22:02 pm
Doug,

Is it too late to plant the Golden Gem tomatoes????  They take 65 days to harvest and it says to plant 5 wks prior to the last frost which I've obviously missed already.

I can NOT remember .......... are you growing the Golden Gems in 5 gal buckets?  If so, I presume you punched some holes in the bottom ...... correct?

Do you know by any chance if Lowe's or something similar carry the starter tomatoe plants like this? I might be better of with the seedlings.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on April 12, 2010, 06:40:16 am
Hey Jeff,
It's not too late to start seeds.
There are other small sweet varieties that are red and yellow, but I don't know which ones to suggest.
A big nursery that has starter plants ready to go would be the ticket for you.
That way you can get a big jump on the season.
You have a longer growing season down where you are than I do.

I started the Tomato seeds indoors here on 04/01
They will get transplanted into the buckets in a couple weeks and then go into the green house

Up here in the mountains, we can have frost up until mothers day.
I move the buckets out of the green house a week or so before mothers day.

You may be able to put out the plants way sooner than me.
I would do them in the ground rather than in a container, but some people like containers on the patio.
Buy a big bag of good compost container soil, dig a hole and mix in the good soil with your soil.

Check out my garden page here.
I have info on the buckets and how I set them up.
http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Garden.htm
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 12, 2010, 09:35:30 am
Thanks Doug!   Yeah, we're past the frost now (unless something weird happens).

I got 5 tomatoe seedling plants this morning as I was headed to Lowe's for some Lantana also. I got some Early Girl large tomatoes also which should produce within two months. Got some Big Boy's and another Hybrid type.

I also got two yellowish grape tomatoes but I don't know if they're Golden Gems? I do have a good nursery close to me and I'll check to see if they have the Golden Gems. Those were awesome tomatoes. I got a feeling that's what the Farmer's Market here in Charlotte was selling also?

If I can't find the Golden Gems locally, I'll order the seeds.

OK, I'll just stick them in the ground vs. container.  Most of the stuff I plant does quite well. My rose bushes are looking pretty good right now and the first 2 week of blooms, I typically will cut 60-70 blooms or more. Should bloom within a wk or so.

THANKS for the info!  Best regards, Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on April 12, 2010, 09:46:30 am
I only use the 5 gallon buckets because I don'y have much flat ground here.
There's more room for big root systems when you plant in the ground

I don't grow any large tomatoes, just small salad and salsa making sized tomatoes.
Here's the links to the tomatoes I am growung this year

Golden gem
http://www.parkseed.com/gardening/PD/5409/

Red currant
http://www.parkseed.com/gardening/PD/5434/

Cherry sweetie
http://www.parkseed.com/gardening/PD/5883/
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 12, 2010, 11:16:58 am
The Cherry Sweeties sound like they'd be pretty good also.

I just finished planting mine. I accidently got a Yellow Pear tomatoe also.  I'll have to look that up.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 12, 2010, 12:50:44 pm
OK, my really nice local nursery did not have those but they highly recommended a grape tomatoe called a Julliete (sp?)
which they claim is very very sweet and tasty. So I'll try those. If this yr is a bust then I'll order seeds next yr.

Thanks again, Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on April 12, 2010, 12:57:47 pm
Juliets are what I grow for salsa, they are not that sweet.
They are great salsa and salad tomatoes

Maybe the nursery has never tasted a really sweet tomato.
The small sweet ones are more like desert tomatoes.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 12, 2010, 08:44:01 pm
Oh well!  The nursery thought they were sweet?  Maybe I got the name wrong?

Doesn't matter ........ I like salsa. Jeannine and I love Mexican food.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on April 13, 2010, 06:46:00 am
Here's the Juliet description from the Park site.
Just for a comparison between the other links I posted

http://www.parkseed.com/gardening/PD/5345/

They really lay it on thick when describing an item so you will push the order button.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: cigarboxblues on April 13, 2010, 09:22:59 am
lovely looking veg garden and some lovely looking veg their .
i got my first seed out yesterday ,cant say my garden well veg plots on the scale of yours.
but lovely to see someonelse enjoying the good home grown veg.
im hoping have a better year than last lol ,only had a few years a it
so better each year ,and look forward to posting some of my produce  :grin:
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on April 13, 2010, 09:29:32 am
Last year was weird here too.
Lots of cold spring nights seemed to stunt the tomatoes and other hot weather stuff.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: cigarboxblues on April 13, 2010, 10:25:07 am
yes it was me and the neighbour had similar problem.
lots of the veg bolting to seed ,so well hope for a nicer time this year  :undecided:
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 13, 2010, 01:21:36 pm
My tomatoes are Juliette instead of Juliet. Don't know if those are the same or not?  They're described as very sweet. Guess I'll find out.

http://naturehills.com/gardening/blogs/featured_plants/archive/2009/04/09/juliette-cherry-tomatoes-are-flavorful-and-organic.aspx

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 11, 2011, 09:10:48 am

Doug,

Where are you on your tomatoe plants this year? 

I've gotten one brand of sweet cherry tomatoes in, some Roma's and a large Better Boy.

Still trying to find that Golden Gem one locally in a container. Think I may need to do it from seeds?

Best regards, Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on April 11, 2011, 09:23:07 am
Banana peppers and eggplant seeds went in peat pots on 03/15

Just put the tomato seeds in the peat pots a week or so ago. They have not sprouted yet.

Cucumber seeds go in the peat pots this week.

All the peat pots are in mini green houses under timed grow lights in the house until later this month.

Then they go out to the outdoor greenhouse until they are ready to go in the ground around or before mothers day.

I have one pack of the Golden Gem seeds here.
I'll throw them in an envelope for you if you want them?

Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 11, 2011, 10:04:19 am
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I have one pack of the Golden Gem seeds here.
I'll throw them in an envelope for you if you want them?

Doug, that's very kind of you. However,  I think I am going to just order some and also order some other ones from Park seeds. I like growing and eating these enough to do this for the rest of my life ........... so I think I'll experiment with different ones and find what I like best.

Best regards, Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on April 11, 2011, 10:24:13 am
Ok
The Golden Gems are item # 5409 at Park Seed
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 11, 2011, 11:58:49 am
I ordered the Golden Gem tomatoes, Cherry Sweetie and the Sweet Baby Girl Hybrid which they claim is their very sweetest of all.

Can't wait to get them going and on the dinner plate!!   :thumbsup:

Thanks for steering me towards these tomatoes. I know I'll enjoy them ALOT.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on April 11, 2011, 12:06:50 pm
You better get them going ASAP

Your zone down there is warmer than here.

Not sure when your last frost is down there but ours is supposedly mothers day.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 11, 2011, 03:58:36 pm

I think the last "possible" normal frost is sometime the week of April 15th tax time here from what I remember?  And yes, they will be planted ASAP after I get them. I'm anxious to get them going for sure.

Thanks, Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: bakerlite on April 11, 2011, 05:36:53 pm
i love this time of year -
we have i suppose a 60" x 15" poly tunnel (esp as its not so warm here)
At the moment we are sewing this years seedlings into trays and all the new life (this years dinner) is popping up its head!
still have a bit of winter produce about - but looking forward to all the fresh food come summer!
nothing better than picking your own food and eating it within minutes.
busy few weeks of potting coming up when they get to big for the module trays
not to mention knowing what your food is and where it came from!!
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 17, 2011, 03:31:36 pm
Well the Park Seeds came in and I got them planted into tiny styrofoam cups nailed on to a piece of plywood.

Hopefully that will work out OK until the start coming up?

I was stunned to see how little the cherry tomatoe seeds are!  Really really tiny.
 :huh:

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on April 27, 2011, 07:18:52 pm
Man, I am pretty excited about these cherry tomatoes!!!

They're already about 3/4" tall.  I planted maybe 12-15 seeds and I bet all of them are coming up.

Gonna find some people to give these away to and keep about 3-4 for myself.

Also, my beautiful Japanese maple had small maple seeds under it and I planted those and it looks like there are a bunch
of them coming up!  Hooray if that's accurate!!! I'd love to have about a dozen Japanese maples at the edge of the woods.

Tubenit
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on April 27, 2011, 07:21:21 pm
cool beans

love those burgandy colored maples
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on May 01, 2011, 07:41:52 pm
Doug,

Hope you don't mind me asking you ....................

Got any thoughts about how tall the tomatoe seedlings should be before separating them apart and giving each one it's own pot?   Currently, I have anywhere from 2 to 5  1" seedlings coming up in EACH styrofoam drinking cup (that has holes in it for drainage). They're kind of crowded.

I am thinking maybe 2" and then separating them?  Then putting them in the ground at about 4"?

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: Willabe on May 01, 2011, 09:22:37 pm
I've planted a fair number of seeds through the years. I had no problem with moving them at about 2". I used a sharp knife and cut them apart.

       Brad       :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on May 02, 2011, 06:30:09 am
A couple inches

I don't separate them cause I don't want to disturb the roots.

I just snip off the weakest looking ones after they get a little bigger and plant the whole peat pot in the ground.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on May 02, 2011, 09:35:01 pm
Well, I ended up separating them prior to reading your response ...........

I think it will be OK?   They're about an inch-2" tall and unfortunately the roots were already attaching to each other. I tried to treat them tenderly. I'm thinking I should know in the next day or so whether what I did worked or not. They're in qt containers now. I'm thinking if I had waited longer the roots would've been even more entangled. I've got about a dozen cherry tomatoe plants going.
 :icon_biggrin:

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on May 03, 2011, 04:48:33 am
I do 3 or 4 seeds per peat pot and then snip off the weakest looking ones.
Maybe leave two plants in the peat pot.
Later on I may snip off the weakest looking one and just have one.

Some plants are tough and don't mind having the roots disturbed when they are tiny.

Some plants won't take it.

I think it slows them down and sets them back a bit until they can re-establish their roots, so I don't mess with trying to untangle tiny plants.



 
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on May 04, 2011, 01:54:21 pm
BTW, on the Tomaotes, in case you didn't know this.

Plant them deep, up to the first set of leaves.

All those little hairs on the stem will become roots and the root system gets a giant boost.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on May 07, 2011, 08:20:31 am
Doug,

I sure appreciate that tip & will plant them just like you suggested.  THANKS!

Can't wait to get them int the ground and going well.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on May 07, 2011, 08:48:44 am
Some people even strip off the lower leaves and stem and plant them deeper yet.

Depends on how many leaves the plant has.

If there only 4 leaves, I would not do that.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on May 12, 2011, 05:48:58 am
My tomatoe plants have grown quite a bit this wk.  They're about 3.5-4" tall & they'll go into the ground this wkend. I will definitely follow your planting suggestions.

They are looking good also!!!      

I also have 9 Japanese maple trees coming up! Wow! I am very excited about that. I love the look of those maples.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on May 12, 2011, 06:01:02 am
Those maples are cool, but they are so expensive.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: Ritchie200 on May 12, 2011, 09:17:19 pm
Man, I am pretty excited about these cherry tomatoes!!!

They're already about 3/4" tall.  I planted maybe 12-15 seeds and I bet all of them are coming up.

Gonna find some people to give these away to and keep about 3-4 for myself.

Tubenit

Ok, I'll take about 8 :laugh:  You gotta bring them to St. Louis, any chance of that this year?  Let me know!

For about the last 10 yrs or so I've been planting my 'mators in those big fiber bowl hanging baskets - out the bottom.  This works great because they are hanging for one, and second the fertilized water runs over the leaves.  I have had to pinch off tomatoes because the yield has been so huge, it's ripped off branches from the weight.  With the success of those silly hanging bags, I should have marketed this years ago...

I've only got two this year.  Burpee Roma (I LOVE Romas!), and Burpee Forth of July.  Never done this one, anyone?

Jim
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: andrew_k on May 12, 2011, 11:15:56 pm
Those maples are cool, but they are so expensive.

Japanese maples respond well to air-layering propagation techniques, but not very well to cuttings.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on May 14, 2011, 05:51:24 pm
Got my tomatoes planted per your planting suggestions.  I've also given away about 13 other tomatoes plants from seeds.  I'm growing the Sweet Baby Girl hybrid and the Golden Gem.  My neighbor got a couple of Sweetie Girls so hopefully I'll get a taste of them.

Got 6 of the Japanese maples into small quart containers now. Hopefully they'll be OK.  I got quite a few more coming up. It won't surprise me if I get 10-12 jap maples out of this effort.

That would be way cool!     Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: drew on May 30, 2011, 01:59:52 am
Some people even strip off the lower leaves and stem and plant them deeper yet.


Yeah, I do that.  I've also had good results by following the advice of the ladies at the farmers market who I buy my heirloom tomato seedlings from: dig a hole about a foot away from where the plant will be; stick a used, empty 1 gallon plastic plant pot in the hole so that just the top rim of the pot is above grade; water the plant by filling the pot with your hose, wait for the water to drain through the holes in the bottom of the pot, and repeat once or twice.  This gets the water down where it's needed,  encourages the roots to grow nice and deep, and minimizes soil being splashed up onto the leaves, which is apparently how a lot of the diseases that can affect tomatoes are transmitted.  You also end up using a lot less water than you do if you just go out and hose down the ground.

I'm trying something different this year: no tomato plants in the ground (none of the available small patches of dirt where I live have day-long exposure to the sun); I've built two EarthTainer (http://www.slate.com/id/2291834) self-watering planters and have them sitting on my relatively sunny patio.  I have a Brandywine and a Black Krim in one and a St. Pierre and a Cuor di Bue in the other.  I had the seedlings sitting around for longer than would have been optimal, while I chased down all the stuff for the planters, but they're all set now and looking good so far.  Also have some peppers planted in a smaller, similar planter.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on May 30, 2011, 05:49:21 am
cool idea on the watering
I like growing in planters and containers.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on June 28, 2011, 09:21:55 am
My seed planted tomatoe plants now have tomatoes on them!   Hooray!

Ironically, the tomatoe plants from Lowe's (which were already growing) look pathetic in comparison.

Can't wait to eat some!  Yum!

Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on June 28, 2011, 09:31:02 am
Nice!!!

I have a few Roma's on my lowes plants
Just flowers on my seed plants so far
I am a bit behind this year

I added some new pics here today
http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Garden2011_03.htm (http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Garden/Garden2011_03.htm)
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on August 06, 2011, 05:25:31 pm
Well, good news and bad news.

Good news is the cherry tomatoes are absolutely delicious!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Very yummy, indeed!

Doug, thanks for turning me on to those. My two plants are very prolific.


Bad news ............... the japanese maples aren't japanese maples ........... however, they are Autumn Glory maples and still a nice tree.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on August 06, 2011, 05:28:24 pm
I have been eating some of the Golden Gems also
Those plants always do well in my garden

Looks like your harvest is a bit ahead of mine.

I have another one I am testing this year called Yellow Paruche
They are about like the Gems'
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on August 06, 2011, 06:34:30 pm
The Sweet Baby Girl hybrid is comparable to the Golden Gem in sweetness, but I like the Golden Gem the best. They have a texture that I prefer.

I've gotten into tomatoes alot more and am using them more in my cooking now.

Best regards, Jeff
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: Ritchie200 on August 06, 2011, 09:09:53 pm
We have had about two weeks with temps in upper 90's to low 100's and NO rain.  My poor 'maters are producing, but show scorching and the meat is not very juicy and so-so in taste.  Both Burpee plants are HUGE with lots of fruit.  I am keeping them watered, but they are struggling in these temps.  Interesting is that I had strawberries up until the really bad heat started a few weeks ago!  My blueberry bushes may not make it through this. 

Jim
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: tubenit on August 07, 2011, 02:24:20 pm
Jim,

Wow!  That's a bummer!  Genuinely sorry to hear that. My kids have been saying St. Lou has been really hot too.  My blueberry bushes have never done well here for some reason?  Out of three bushes, I only get about enough to make a breakfast or two of blueberry pancakes.

Dallas is even worse. When I flew out to see my son about a month ago, the temp was 110. Ouch!

Oh, I'd be really wary of eating anything that had Burpee behind it.   :l2:

Best regards, Jeff

Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on August 07, 2011, 06:24:26 pm
I had a bumper crop of Blueberries this year, best year ever.
The last bush just finished up a week or so ago.

My veggies are all in raised beds and so it's easy to water them.

Jim,
Is is water or heat?
If it's too much sun you can drape some shade cloth over them.

Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: Ritchie200 on August 08, 2011, 01:24:35 am
Yeah, I also got a bumper crop of blueberries this year off of some very small bushes.  If they get any bigger, I will have to sell or can!  That is - if they survive...  Hey Doug, do you do anything with your bushes in the winter?

I would certainly be doing my tomatoes a favor if I put some cloth over them.  Actually I have a wood  trellis behind the plants that I usually use for my pole beans.  I could easily rig something off of that, thanks for the suggestion!  The sun is actually scorching them white.  They are on a raised bed also.  Everything is so dry, I need to keep the water on them.  I'll bet the direct sun is causing the biggest issues.

Hey 'Nit, make all the fun you want!  I have always had very good luck with everything Burpee puts out!

Jim
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: PRR on August 13, 2011, 03:12:33 pm
Downeast, tomatoes are just starting to ripen. These are from Home/Lowes; we don't have the weather-nose to risk from-seed.
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: EL34 on August 13, 2011, 03:25:21 pm
Looks like a crop of Roma Toms?
Title: Re: The Veggie garden
Post by: Ritchie200 on August 13, 2011, 07:33:41 pm
Just got some rain over the past week and OMG the plants are going nuts!  Just harvested some Burpee 4th of July.  They are bigger than cherries but are only about 1.5" diameter.  Wow are they delicious!  Sweet with good meat.  Had a few on a salad - perfect.  I am going to make some basketti sauce out of some so we will see how they perform there...  I am getting about 6-10 a day off of one plant!

Jim