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Offline kagliostro

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Rifle Scope ..... Question about
« on: July 19, 2015, 03:29:36 am »
A friend bought a telescope for his air rifle (an old Diana 50)


http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1190567863/Diana+model+50-b

he got it at an Ham Fest in Friedrichshafen and the price was very low

the riflescope is similar to this

http://www.ebay.it/itm/Brand-New-3-9x40EG-Rifle-Scope-with-Red-Green-Illuminated-Reticle-SALE-/141440398324?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20ee8133f4

it has a grid that I don't understand 100%, this one



I know the basic concept of the mil dot



but I don't know how to use this kind of grid, is the "V part" relative to the deviation drift due to the rotation of the bullet ?

Someone can explain it to me or give a link to a tutorial ?

Thanks

K
« Last Edit: July 19, 2015, 06:36:21 am by kagliostro »
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Re: Rifle Scope ..... Question about
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2015, 09:57:22 pm »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadiametric_rangefinding



While your air-gun is not likely to be sighting armored tanks, I suspect there is some standard-size target used for small-gun range finding. If it looks as wide as the top line, you aim a little high. If it looks as small as the bottom line, you aim a lot high.
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Re: Rifle Scope ..... Question about
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2015, 10:44:45 pm »
I have a "transit", a telescope on a tripod with precision angles, and a rod marked in feet/inches (metric would be better).


http://www.runyonrental.com/LEVEL-TRANSIT-WTRIPOD-amp-STICK.item
(Mine is much older, no plastic.)

It does many things, and it does "stadia".

A Greek stadion was 600 feet. This was often used to measure roads (road-builder's payment, army travels).

My transit's stadia marks are "100:1". If my 6-foot assistant's head and shoes just fit between the stadia marks in my transit's grid, he is 600 feet away.

In modern road-building we need sticks in the ground every 100 (curves) or 1,000 (straights) feet. Instead of finding a 6-foot assistant, I look at the marks on the rod my helper holds (actually I strap the rod to a tree). If the stadia marks cover 1 foot of the rod (say, 4'3" to 5'3") then I am 100 feet from the rod; 10 feet, then I am 1,000 feet from the rod.

It would be more precise to use a survey chain (a very fancy tape-measure). However in road-building, the road goes from end to end, and we just need a lot of roughly 100 or 1,000 foot intervals to place marker sticks for the bulldozers and pavement machines. We only need to stay very-near the intended route (not drift onto private property). Apparently stadia-marks in transits "can" give error of 1 in 400, which is better than bad chain-work (it is hard to hold a tape/chain *exactly* straight over long distances). Stadia-estimation is much faster than dragging a chain.

Of course when shooting you can't send a boy to the target with a calibrated rod. Your question is: what is the intended target-size for this scope? In military small-arms it would of course be the size of a human. But overall standing in the clear? Just chin-to-helmet peeking over a hill? And this V-grid seems to go by width, not height.

And the "drop" for a given target and a given grid will be very different for a 30-06 war-rifle or a hobby air-rifle. When I used to shoot over 100 feet, the 30-06 went right-on, the .22 dropped several inches.

If you are target-shooting: sand-bags, measured range, and a lot of shooting will tell you how much drop to expect for how the target looks against the V-grid. But of course in target-shooting you probably already know the range, and how much drop your gun gives at that range.
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Re: Rifle Scope ..... Question about
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 03:50:36 am »
Many Thanks PRR


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Re: Rifle Scope ..... Question about
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2015, 04:25:38 pm »
Many Thanks also to you JJasilli

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