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Offline Jalmeida

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Silly amp design question…
« on: January 18, 2024, 07:23:15 pm »
This may be a dumb question regarding amp channels. My apologies ahead of time  :icon_biggrin:

So, it seems to be pretty common practice to have an amp with two channels and a hi/lo input dedicated to each. And it is somewhat common practice to run and A/B/Y or splitter to run channels in parallel as long as they are not phase cancelling at the PI. So could you use one input to feed two channels simultaneously and use each channel volume to balance? Or maybe use a switched ground to ground a channel at the PI as a channel switch? I suppose running the preamp audio to
a footswitch can introduce noise. But maybe a workaround exists without relays?

Where I am going with this is I like the idea of two channels. But the relay channel switching seems like un-necessary complication to want to deal with.


Offline d95err

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Re: Silly amp design question…
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2024, 01:55:10 am »
Yes, channels have independent inputs, you can simply wire one input jack to multiple channels. It's a quite common design.

The easiest way to channel switch in that case is to use a switch to mute the channel you don't want, by switching the signal to ground somewhere before the channels are mixed together.

Running the signal to a footswitch and back to the amp can certainly introduce noise. Tube amp signals are typically high impedance and sensitive to interference. This was a fairly common practice in amps in the 60s and 70s though, and is still common for the reverb switching in many amps.

An electronically controlled switch is a better alternative. There are a lot of different options. Relays, Vactrols (resistive optocouplers or LED/LDRs) and Jfets are probably the most common. Each type of switch has its pros and cons. Jfets are cheap and require almost no current, but can't take high voltages. Relays need quite a bit of current, Vactrols are expensive, etc.

A relay is probably the simplest solution. They also have the advantage that you can get a DPDT switch in a small convenient package. You need to generate a supply voltage to power them though. Could be taken from an unused transformer winding, the heater winding, or adding a separate transformer.

For a really in-depth description of switching methods for tube amps, I recommend Kevin O'Connor's book "The Ultimate Tone".

 


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