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The new neighbors
« on: March 04, 2009, 09:31:31 am »
This Female Hawk has been visiting me several times a day for the last week or so.
She's not afraid of me, I can walk up pretty close to her.

She has been outside my shop window twice this morning already.
She also sits near my bird feeder waiting for a snack.

Yesterday, I saw something rip by a window and I could hear a racket going on outside.
Apprently, she dive bombed something near the feeder, but I guess she missed it cause there was nothing in her claws when she went up into a tree.

Looks like the chipmunks will be thinned out this year when they finally emerge from the slumber.
I am guessing the hawk has set up shop near my home somewhere and likes my property cause there is lots of critters.


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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2009, 09:44:21 am »

 If you have any field mice around, she may help thin them out.
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2009, 11:03:50 am »
They are great birds, I have a pair of them, An Osprey that feeds in the pond next door ....that's an awesome bird to watch. I also get a bald eagle now and again, I've seen him or her carry off a full grown rabbit. Last week my dog and I walked up on a timber rattler, she walked right past it within 2 feet, she must have heard or smelled it and went back after it. It was bunched up and struck at her but she narrowly avoided the strike. Fortunately she must have heard something in my command and backed off and I leashed her (sometimes she's deaf) she's a fast dog I've seen her catch a quail .....I usually carry a pistol, but didn't have it. I'd kill a rattler they hurt .
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2009, 11:53:49 am »
I live just a few miles from the Raptor Center in Charlotte. They provide medical treatment for raptors that have been injured. Stuff like using feathers from another bird inserted into a wounded bird's wings.   Cool stuff!   

http://www.carolinaraptorcenter.org/

Then they are released "into the wild" .............. and I see them in my backyard dive bombing the dove on my 4 bird feeders and ripping them to shreds for dinner. What's funny to me is that the Raptor Center does presentations and claims raptors don't eat other birds. Some cities buy falcons/perrigens to kill the problematic pigeon population. They sure as shooting dine on my birds!

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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2009, 12:10:16 pm »
I'd love to see this hawk take out a few doves.

The doves are like hoover vaccums when they get on my feeder.
They chase away the songbirds and are a big fat pest with a tiny brain, IMO.

I noticed that owls and hawks will not mess with a squirrel, but a chipmunk is on the menu.
I have seen hawks grab chipmunks.

Squirrels seem to be too large and may hurt the birds.
The squirrels don't even blink when a hawk lands near them.
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2009, 12:35:03 pm »
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The doves are like hoover vaccums when they get on my feeder.
;D ;D

Well put!  They get HUGE feeding on sunflower seeds.  Actually the dove, cardinals, woodpeckers, gold finch, house finch, titmouse, carolina chickadees, wrens, etc........ seem to get along pretty good and feed along side one another here.      Do you know dove mate for life?

I get mostly hawks, some big red tailed hawks, perrigens/falcons and occasionally owls (mostly great barred owls) in the woods behind my house.  Reportedly the owls are the "tigers" of the raptors and proportionately are a ferocious species. They eat alot of skunks and critters that size from what I understand.  I think the raptors are pretty cool and the owls may be my favorites. There are some bald eagles and osprey around the area also on the local lakes.

Barred owls have a wingspan up to 44 inches.

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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2009, 01:49:06 pm »
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I noticed that owls and hawks will not mess with a squirrel
Wish I could say that! Hawks go for the young squirrels (especially the ones I've just released that don't have any 'squirrel savy' yet) in my backyard and occasionally carry one off. They don't mess with the grown ones though.

The hawks mainly target the doves and rarely go for other types of birds in my yard. There is always a pile of dove feathers in the back yard. They probably catch about 1 per week. The squirrels usually go on chatter alert whenever a hawk stops in the yard, or even flies over.

We did have a horned owl visit last summer just after dusk. He was after the flying squirrels and would sit in plain view of one of the squirrel platform feeders. He did this for about a week and then moved on.
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2009, 01:55:16 pm »
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We did have a horned owl visit last summer just after dusk. He was after the flying squirrels and would sit in plain view of one of the squirrel platform feeders. He did this for about a week and then moved on.

I saw one once
With those huge wings how come they do not hit any tree branches
when they come in for a kill.
a great bird and quite

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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2009, 04:15:19 pm »
 I've mentioned it before, but my stepson is a falconer, he has a Harris hawk. Thats a wives tail they won't eat other birds. He feeds this one pheasant and chicken meat raw (you don't want to look in his freezer you never know what bagged dead thing is in there... :D ).  They can take down some pretty big birds, chickens are nothing for them to snag and they're dead before they even know whats happened. They have some kind of crazy eyesight of something like several miles. This may be upsetting to some, but check out a golden eagle hunting bird taking down a deer!  :o



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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2009, 07:01:33 am »
Odd, I was looking at this video a couple of weeks ago.
A little heavy. :o
We have tons of hawks around here.
Lots of mice....I think.
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 06:53:27 am »
Oh, I forgot......the crows kick the hawks butts around here.
The crows totally harass them and out maneuver whenever a hawk gets a meal to fly off with.
I've seen a hawk flying around with a 3 foot snake in it's mouth being chased by 5 crows.
As the hawk flew ,the snake actually hit the top of my dog's house.....the hawk was almost dog chow!
The crows are nuts.

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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2009, 03:02:55 pm »
Earlier this year SWMBO & I were having lunch at the duckpond near where I work (lots of ducks geese and squirrels) trying to see a particular black squirrel that seems to be AWOL. I saw a crow up in a tree cussin' a blue streak at something on the ground. That something turned out to be a hawk who had gone to ground for some reason. He was just over the top of a rise and we couldn't see his feet/talons. He was rooted to one spot and wasn't moving a bit no matter what insults the crow hurled his way. He kept going into a defensive posture while Mister Crow would move from tree branch to bush to whatever else was close but just out of striking distance from Mister Hawk-cussin' all the while. SWMBO wanted me to go investigate and see if the hawk was ok, we rarely see them on the ground like that. I counselled patience, and so we waited finishing off the In-n-Out burgers (animal style). Just as I was about to go and check out Mister Hawk about 10-15 minutes later, he decided to take off for a tree- with a squirrel that wasn't fast enough, probably a young-un. On one hand, we don't like to see the squirrels come to such a bad end (usually see one every other day or so on the road- one of the Geico Squirrels ziggin' instead of zaggin') but Mister Hawk has to eat too...
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2009, 05:35:20 am »
Yep I see new neighbors also now

Spring is here I saw my first Robin in Boothwyn Pa.



People say birds are the decedents of Dinosaurs if that is true then the Robin is the Tyrannosaurus Rex.

I see Robins in the Spring work a yard, a bug does not have a chance.

Some birds eat seeds and some birds eat road kill but these monsters are only after fresh meat


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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2009, 04:45:36 pm »
"People say birds are the decedents of Dinosaurs if that is true then the Robin is the Tyrannosaurus Rex."
I'd like to take a recording of some rockin robins goin' tweet-tweet-tweet and slow 'em down a bit. Might give us an idea of what Mister Raptor or Miz T. Rex sounded like. I have some cockatiels and if you slowed down their noises it would very likely be some gutteral growling...
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2009, 11:26:58 am »
That Robin needs a shave.

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Re: The new neighbors
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2009, 06:27:59 pm »
 ;D
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2009, 09:44:36 pm »
Here's a live webcam of an eagles nest near here. Should get grisley when they bring dinner home.

http://www.suttoncenter.org/eaglecam.html
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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2009, 07:32:04 am »
Yep I see new neighbors also now

Spring is here I saw my first Robin in Boothwyn Pa.



People say birds are the decedents of Dinosaurs if that is true then the Robin is the Tyrannosaurus Rex.

I see Robins in the Spring work a yard, a bug does not have a chance.

Some birds eat seeds and some birds eat road kill but these monsters are only after fresh meat



See I was right about the Robin

Miniature carnivore dinosaurs roamed North America
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090317/sc_afp/uscanadapaleontologydinosaur_20090317184749

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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2009, 01:41:23 pm »
I believe that the Emu is considered the closest living relative of the dino's like T-Rex.


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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2009, 08:17:01 pm »
too bad these are no more...

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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2009, 09:12:26 pm »
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I believe that the Emu is considered the closest living relative of the dino's like T-Rex.

Almost....except for this guy.

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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2009, 09:15:03 pm »
We have these around here...see them all the time...once we went on a country road and saw hundreds of these sitting in a field...big birds...good hunters!

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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2009, 01:04:56 pm »
Forgot about Gorn.
Wish Bassmanster would come back.  :(

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Re: The new neighbors
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2009, 01:55:31 am »
> birds are the descendants of Dinosaurs

More like their grand-daddy was a cousin to the dinosaur's grand-daddy.

We love the big dinosaurs because their bones look great in museums. But that's like, 1,000 years from now, they only remember Abe Lincoln and Eric Clapton. In any time and place there's millions of critters, mostly forgotten.

My school is on a sandbar so we don't have T-Rex or Brontosaurus bones in Geology Hall. But at some time the state was over-run by very ordinary medium-small dinosaurs almost exactly the size (100-200 pounds) of the damm deer which now eat our gardens and jump in front of our cars. A local artist mocked one up life-size in fiberglass. Looking at it, I realized that warm-blood cool-blood long-tail short-tail... it hardly matters. These ARE the creatures which browse the lower leaves off shrubs and reproduce like rabbits.

And yet it does matter. Some flood or meteor left the earth a bit too cool for hairless creatures without thermostats. Some of those millions of forgotten creatures had scales that grew different, like hair or feathers, and also thermostat control beyond just moving to a warm rock or cool pond. These are not necessarily "improvements": hair collects parasites and mold, hot-blood means you can't sleep-through the cool season, you gotta run around finding food to keep warm. But in the right situation, there may be advantages. Indeed T-Rex may have run more stable temperature than some of the older dinos, been able to hunt in cooler weather when the others were slow or dormant.

Anyway: while the early dinosaurs were probably scales and poor temperature control, dense filament-like coverings of scale material and thermoregulation were around, like musical talent in the current human population.

One classic way to trace family lines is hip structure. There's several ways to jam legs on the end of the spine, and hip-bones tend to be large and thus survive long burial for eventual study. There's much more modern ways now, but when I was a boy the dinosaurs were sorted by "bird-like" and "lizard" hip plans. Yet modern birds do not seem to trace directly from plans for the last dinosaurs, but were probably doing their own thing long-long before T-Rex.

They've recently found some mud with impressions of a lizard-like critter with pin-feathers and extended finger-bone. Not clear that it could fly; maybe it could run around in cool weather and grab prey. Or pry dino-eggs out of nest-holes. There must have been a lot of different critters to exploit many possible ways of living. Birds seem to be fragile and stupid, yet somehow they (and shrew-like Mammals, g-g-g-g-grandfathers to our own bodies) probably lived with the earliest dinosaurs and somehow evaded whatever happened to the dinos.

 


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